31 responses to The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos)

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    Alice Aber
    The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos) (April 7th, 2014 at 06:50)

    Thanks for sharing the pictures. I enjoyed looking at them. The store looks a lot like our “Beachy’s” in Arthur, IL. Which reminds me, I am way over due for a trip down there, LOL.

    Rainy or not, great pictures! Thanks again!

    Alice

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      Beachy's (April 7th, 2014 at 09:00)

      Beachy's

      Alice, I had the same thought — it reminded me of Beachy’s which I love to visit.

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        Alice Aber
        Linda (April 7th, 2014 at 09:04)

        Linda

        Linda, are you here in Illinois? I am in Clinton, IL. Aber an hour and a half north and slightly west of Arthur. I am hoping to get down there more this year. I want to go to the produce auctions this year too. I was hoping to get down there more last year but it seemed like something was always getting in the way.

        Alice

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    Juanita Cook
    The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos) (April 7th, 2014 at 08:39)

    Really enjoyed see all these pictures. They all looked really good.

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    Margaret
    The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos) (April 7th, 2014 at 08:45)

    Thanks, Erik! Loved seeing the pictures!

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    The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos) (April 7th, 2014 at 09:22)

    Thanks for sharing. As a photographer I understand the frustration of weather that isn’t cooperating, but for my own personal tastes I really do like the foggy/misty affect that the weather had on the farmhouse shots.

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    Brad of the Brethren
    Great Pics ! (April 7th, 2014 at 09:49)

    Great Pics !

    Once again Erik I really enjoyed your photos ! It states that Wayne Co. is made up of 8 church districts, aprox. how many people comprise a district ? And how do they decide to form a new one ? Or abandon an old one ? Who makes these decisions ? Thanks guys, always enjoy all your in-put !

    • Growing and shrinking Amish churches

      Thank you Brad and all others who’ve enjoyed these, but only the text is mine, photos are all from our generous contributor :)

      As for church districts, it can be tricky to compare b/c some communities have a larger or smaller average church district size. Generally they are 20-40 families. In most cases one getting around 40 families is probably going to be preparing to divide.

      Another challenge is that right after dividing, the two new districts are typically going to be smaller than the “average” size. So if a community has 8 churches but 4 of them came from churches which divided in the past year or two, it may actually have a smaller population than a community with 6 or 7 churches
      with one or two churches getting ready to divide. My statement above of Wayne County being 6th largest in Indiana is based on number of churches.

      Also, when a new community starts, it will be listed as 1 church district, but may only have a handful of families comprising that district, even as little as 2 or 3 depending on the situation.

      The decision to form a new district is mainly based on how much the church has grown. With home worship people’s homes can only accommodate so many bodies. For whatever reason, some communities wait longer than others. Allen County Indiana had a number of churches over 40-50 families a few years ago and may still do.

      As far as districts disappearing within a shrinking settlement, a good question. I haven’t looked at that dynamic as much, but at some point when enough families from a church leave, or in particular if a bishop/church leadership leaves a settlement, I believe the remaining families would just attach themselves to one of the remaining districts. I’m not sure how that is formalized in terms of who would go where but probably what makes sense geographically. The article I linked above touches on shrinking/going extinct settlements.

      Growing and shrinking Amish churches

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    Alice Mary
    Oh boy, oh boy, OH BOY! (April 7th, 2014 at 10:58)

    Oh boy, oh boy, OH BOY!

    I’d LOVE to shop there! Just the teas and soup mixes alone would practically fill my cart! I sure wish there were Amish-run stores around here (I don’t travel very far or very much—still workin’ full time).

    “My” squirrels would appreciate the corn…and I’m in the market for a couple more kitchen chairs to accommodate the grandkids. I sure did enjoy this virtual trip, and thanks to the contributor!

    And Erik, even here in suburban Chicago (OK, far northwest suburban—almost Wisconsin), we do (at least I do) use “y’all” fairly regularly…
    See y’all later!

    Alice Mary

    Oh boy, oh boy, OH BOY!

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      All y'all in Chicago (April 7th, 2014 at 11:38)

      All y'all in Chicago

      Interesting Alice Mary…above I attached the “y’all map”, which is based on a fascinating language project by NC State student Joshua Katz looking at language variation across America (based on data gathered in the Harvard Dialect Survey by Bert Vaux and Scott Golder).

      He mapped out which forms of common words and phrases are most common in a given location (“soda” vs. “pop” vs. “coke” is another example). Looks like the y’all/you guys dividing line runs through WV/KY/southern MO. Interestingly, the only place “you all” rises to the top is Kentucky (as described to me by a resident, KY is really a combination of 3 or 4 American regions).

      However the map just shows the dominant form used in that place, so there could be a strong minority in a given area using an alternate form…in other words maybe you are part of a prominent “y’all minority” in your IL/WI region. Anyway I love stuff like this if you couldn’t tell :)

      You can see more of Katz’s maps here: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jakatz2/project-dialect.html

      All y'all in Chicago

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    Alice Mary
    Thanks, Erik! (April 7th, 2014 at 12:07)

    Thanks, Erik!

    How interesting, and thanks for the links to Katz’s maps! This really is of interest to me (like you)! I couldn’t spend much time browsing the maps, but did find that my family (moreso in Chgo. than the suburbs where I’ve lived) used the term “firefly” rather than the more common “lightning bug”. I always wondered about “in line” vs. “on line”—and was surprised to see that “in line” (which the VAST majority of people in my area use) is truly the predominant form, nation-wide. My family always used “soda” (in Chicago), but out in the suburbs most use “pop” (my adult kids still use “soda”).

    My family moved to Chicago from Poland about 110 years ago—which makes me wonder how immigration patterns factor into it all! Fascinating!

    Off to work, now! I’ll be passing around that link to friends and family, for sure!

    Alice Mary

    Thanks, Erik!

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    Naomi WIlson
    The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos) (April 7th, 2014 at 13:52)

    Rachel Weaver’s books are great. The sign for Be Your Own “Doctor” is pictured, but our favorite is Backyard Pharmacy. B and W ointment is a must-have for burns or any minor skin irritation as well. I have fair skin and put it on my face almost every evening on long sunny summer days (although we’ve forgotten what “summer” is here in VA.

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    Wayne County bicycling (April 7th, 2014 at 13:56)

    Wayne County bicycling

    I’ve done several bicycle rides in and through Wayne County the past few years, and must have missed every one of these church districts. I’ve made a couple of passes through Greens Fork, but don’t think I have ever been in Fountain City. Last fall it was a matter of getting food in Fountain City or getting to the campground before dark, and I chose the latter. Do you think all of the settlements are in the Greens Fork to Fountain City part of the county?

    Wayne County bicycling

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      The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos) (April 7th, 2014 at 14:11)

      I looked at your Donnermeyer and Luthy link, and it says Hagerstown to Greens Fork. I’ve been between Hagerstown and Greens Fork quite a few times, and also have done quite a bit of riding in Randolph and Henry counties. (Randolph more than Henry.) I don’t remember seeing any Amish settlements anywhere. (In Randolph County I’ve been following up on Quakers who were conscientious objectors during the 1832 Black Hawk war — even got a chance to talk to descendants of some of them who are still living on the family farm. Friends churches are still pretty thick in that area. In other words, I try to pay attention to what’s around me. Don’t recall seeing any Amish, though, so maybe I don’t pay as good attention as I think I do.)

      The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos)

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    Linda
    The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos) (April 7th, 2014 at 17:20)

    Tomatoes escaping out of cages; what an imagination! Thanks for the chuckle!

    It looks like Fountain Acres Foods has many skylights to allow natural daylight to brighten the store, and the doghouse has a light coating of snow.

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    The Other Erik
    Nice combination of photos and explanations (April 7th, 2014 at 21:24)

    Nice combination of photos and explanations

    “Violators could be towed” is more honest and realistic, so I appreciate that. It’s also more pacifist and turn-the-other-cheek-ish, so the Amish should appreciate that.

    The final infographic map is incomplete, however. It has no option for saying “all of you” or “alls y’alls,” both of which I’ve heard.

    Thank you Erik for making available these photos.

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    Adair
    The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos) (April 7th, 2014 at 21:39)

    Thanks for these good photos. That is the most incredibly tidy store I have ever seen! Not even any footprints on the floor in that weather! And the language map – is it connected to that “quiz” that’s been making the internet rounds? It’s spectacularly good, spot on for me and for everyone I know who took it.

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      Interactive Dialect Quiz (April 7th, 2014 at 22:55)

      Interactive Dialect Quiz

      I took it too Adair (fun quiz!)–and it nailed my accent pretty close as well (I can’t remember exactly, but the three closest cities it matched me with were all slightly to the north of my hometown of Raleigh NC–Baltimore among them I believe).

      It is based on the same Harvard Dialect Study as the maps. If you’re interested in American dialects, this is worth doing (and in response to The Other Erik’s point, it gives you many more options-I pasted the first question below as an example):

      http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/12/20/sunday-review/dialect-quiz-map.html?_r=0

      How would you address a group of two or more people?
      ×
      you all
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      yous / youse
      ×
      you lot
      ×
      you guys
      ×
      you ‘uns
      ×
      yinz
      ×
      you
      ×
      other
      ×
      y’all

      Interactive Dialect Quiz

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    Slightly-Handled-Order-Man
    The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos) (April 8th, 2014 at 07:02)

    I’m guessing when you live in a place where “Y’all” is prominent, in daily use, you don’t hear it as much, because you get so used to it. People say “eh” a lot in my neighbourhood and it only stands out on odd ocasions, like, at least to me, when someone with a highly international accent uses it, and does it sarcastically toward us born and raised Canadians, at least that has been my experience, but, people do use “y’all” around here too sometimes, words migrate and get incorporated because of popular culture and multiculturalism.
    Beautiful pictures and great comments from the contributor and Erik, y’all have a great day, eh.

    The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos)

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    Brad of the Brethren
    Questions Answer (April 8th, 2014 at 12:42)

    Questions Answer

    Erik, thanks so much for answering my questions, I have learned more from you than my Amish Q & A group on Facebook ! Not bad for an English boy ! haha !

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    Laura
    The Amish of Wayne County, Indiana (31 Photos) (April 8th, 2014 at 13:10)

    Those soup mixes sure look a lot like the ones at the Amish Market in Annapolis, MD. We had a terrible time last time we were there not buying one of everything!

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    Michigan Mary
    Y'all (April 9th, 2014 at 20:09)

    Y'all

    For the record, the plural of “Y’all” is “All Y’all”!! :) and it’s very popular in Michigan to use both!

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    Michael Lunsford
    for sale (May 2nd, 2014 at 18:50)

    for sale

    There are two small houses for sale in fountain city in. They are both at the edge of town before the amish settlement. Be cool for people on this sight to buy and timeshare or weekly rent for vacationers wanting to experience the tranquil life. My first post so hope this works. ML

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