17 responses to New York still drawing Amish and Mennonites

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    New York State of Mind
    New York still drawing Amish and Mennonites (March 12th, 2013 at 10:18)

    I am glad they are coming to my State, New York. I was really surprised on how much cheaper land is here than in Pennsylvania.

    Marilyn

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    New York still drawing Amish and Mennonites (March 12th, 2013 at 11:17)

    Erik,
    Where are the Nebraska Amish settling in New York? Thanks for the heads up.
    Tom backroadstraveller.blogspot.com/

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    Erin
    New York still drawing Amish and Mennonites (March 12th, 2013 at 11:33)

    I live in MN and I am very grateful to have Amish in our state. I know a new community started in East Central MN about 20 months ago and 2 more communities have started within the past few months. I love to meet them and help support them.

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    Don Curtis
    New York Amish (March 12th, 2013 at 12:08)

    New York Amish

    I read this post to Mark. He said that there was a family from Belle Center that moved to New York and was one of the founding families at the Canastota, NY settlement. Also, a number of families, mainly relatives, have joined them there coming from Holmes County. Mark explained that New York attracts the Amish because of the land prices and the availability to big city markets for their products. The land there, unlike in the midwest, is not suitable for the big grain farmers who are grabbing up every available acre in Ohio, Indiana, etc. The farms in Upstate New York tend to be smaller farms, around a hundred acres or so. The land is kind of hilly and broken up with valleys and such. Not good for grain farms but good for dairy herds. The English farmers are getting older and wanting to retire and none of their children want to take over the farms. But, the Amish are more than willing to step in and take over the farms and build them back up.

    New York Amish

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      Canastota NY Amish (March 12th, 2013 at 14:28)

      Canastota NY Amish

      Interesting Don, here’s a little further info from David Luthy’s article: of the 18 new New York settlements founded from 2007-mid 2012, 10 of them originated from existing settlements in New York. 5 were from Pennsylvania, 2 each from Michigan and Wisconsin, and 1 from Ohio (Conneaut). Looks like that Canastota community was started a little before this period, in 2006. It sounds like there is room to grow.

      Canastota NY Amish

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        New York still drawing Amish and Mennonites (March 12th, 2013 at 20:53)

        Erik,
        I never realized how often some Amish move. Some of the first Amish I met nearly 20 years ago were in Conewango, NY and they moved to Conneaut Ohio. The Conneaut settlement also spills over into PA. I will have to check and see if they have the moving bug. My take is that it is easy for some to “get a bug in their bonnet” and pull up stakes. Didn’t know about Canastota, I don’t get there often.
        Tom

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      Joe B
      Farm outside Rome, NY (July 24th, 2013 at 10:42)

      Farm outside Rome, NY

      Can someone advise on how I can contact the Amish communities around central NY? I have around 200 acres of farm/pasture/woods that is available for purchase. The farm is located about 2 miles outside of Rome NY in Oneida County. This was a dairy farm that was in business until 1980. Since then the land and associated buildings have been rented out for crops, living, etc. The buildings include 2 houses (1 vacant and 1 rented), 1 large dairy barn and an adjacent milk plant that was used to process and bottle milk (now vacant). I can be reached at 919 602-0360. Thanks. Joe B

      Farm outside Rome, NY

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    Alice Mary
    Welcome, Amish "neighbors"! (March 12th, 2013 at 13:53)

    Welcome, Amish "neighbors"!

    I was surprised to read about an increase of new Amish settlements in my state (IL). I wish there were a way to entice them to my county! I’ll further investigate the other Amish settlement areas when I have a little more time (lunch time now, at work).

    Of course, any regular reader here knows the Amish are an ever-growing population! :)

    Thanks, Erik!

    Alice Mary

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    Some Amish leaving New York? (March 12th, 2013 at 14:50)

    Some Amish leaving New York?

    Here is a Facebook comment I just noticed on this article:

    interesting… here in marathon, ny we have at least 1 amish family moving back to pa because our land taxes are so high. they bought the land at a good price but didn’t realize how high the taxes were… and they had anticipated that ny would be hyrofracking for gas by now (but there is still a moratorium). there are at least 4 other familes that want to move back to pa.

    Some Amish leaving New York?

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      OldKat
      Interesting comment (March 12th, 2013 at 19:25)

      Interesting comment

      People often don’t ask enough questions before making a move; if property taxes are low there is often a state income tax and/or high sales or franchise taxes. If property taxes are high, there may not be a state income tax and or sales / franchise taxes may be lower. People moving to Texas from the west coast or east coast are often thrilled when they learn there is no state income tax, but when they get their bill for property taxes they come back to earth a little bit. My dear old dad use to tell me: “Son, there ain’t no free ride”. Grammatical problems aside, he was correct … there really isn’t.

      Real estate prices in the northeast corridor have amazed me for years; urban and sub-urban prices are often so high that I can’t figure out how people can even afford to live there. Rural prices can be surprisingly affordable though. Sometimes there almost seems to be a disconnect between the two. I haven’t ruled out moving there myself, but I doubt that I could get my bride to go with me. She is adverse to cold weather. Doesn’t rule out extended visits though, because I really love that part of our beautiful country.

      Interesting comment

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        New York still drawing Amish and Mennonites (March 12th, 2013 at 21:05)

        Oldkat,
        Sounds like “your dear old dad” was a smart man.
        Tom

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          OldKat
          True (March 12th, 2013 at 22:08)

          True

          Yes,that is true. Actually he was pretty darned smart. Unfortunately, I didn’t recognize that fact at the time.

          Turns out the saying about parents knowing nothing when you are 18, but the older you get the smarter they get … is also true!

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      sarah
      New York still drawing Amish and Mennonites (March 13th, 2013 at 09:12)

      Yes… i was the one that left the fb comment. Our very closest friends here in marathon ny have decided that ny taxes are too high and there just aren’t the job opportunities they had expected. They had tried dairy farming but found it didn’t provid enough income. They had expected the gas companies to come in and start drilling. But ny still has a drilling moratorium. So their land is for sale. They will be heading back to smicksburg, pa as soon as the land sells. And i know of at least 4 other families considering moving back…

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    Al in Ky.
    New York still drawing Amish and Mennonites (March 12th, 2013 at 20:40)

    I always enjoy reading the updates about the growth of Amish
    settlements, especially in “pioneer” areas for the
    Amish. I still think that 20 years from now, about the only
    traditional small family farms left may be those owned by
    Amish families.

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      New York still drawing Amish and Mennonites (March 12th, 2013 at 21:01)

      Al,
      I have seen in New York State that when an “English farmer” retires and has no one in the family to pass the farm to, that others big “English” farmers or sometime Mennonite farmers will snap up the best land and if there are Amish around they will buy the rest on the cheap. Many of my Amish friends are “penny wish and dollar foolish”. Price sometimes drives the bargain.
      Tom

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