Amish dating, Amish smoking: ‘Old’ and ‘New’ perspectives

‘The typical English guy looks at one of us and just sees an Amish person.  Actually there can be a lot of difference.’

So said a Holmes County Amishman, commenting on the diversity in his area.

Compared to the Old Order Amish, the so-called New Order Amish are a curious mix–one which we might term technologically more liberal, but in some ways culturally more conservative.

The New Order, which formed in 1966, is similar in dress and transportation to the Old Order, wearing plain clothing and using the horse-and-buggy.

Some New Orders allow phones and even electricity in the home.  They also use tractors in the fields.  Typically, Old Orders own tractors but park them by the barn and use the horsepower to fill the silo at harvest time.

The New Order is adamantly against two practices seen among a minority of Amish:  “bundling” and tobacco.

Bundling is an Old World practice of bed courtship.  The dating pair lie fully clothed on the bed together.  Some might call that a recipe for temptation.


Tobacco use is seen in Lancaster County, where it has a long tradition as a cash crop, and in other settlements as well.

Being anti-smoking is not necessarily being more conservative.  As John Hostetler points out in Amish Society, in some communities, quitting smoking may be taken as identifying with more liberal Mennonite groups.


Hostetler also points out that cigars and pipes are traditionally more acceptable than ‘worldly’ cigarettes.

Donald Kraybill explains the differences between these and other groups in The Amish Struggle with Modernity.

States where New Order settlements can be found include Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Kentucky, North Carolina, and Montana.

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    1. The Amish around my southern Indiana county (Orange) and the surrounding counties of Lawrence and Washington often buy cigars and I’m sure they smoke pipes, but I’ve never seen one smoke a cigarette.

      Interesting tidbit: I used to work in a liquor store and Amish men buy their whiskey in half gallon sizes and once I even sold a half gallon to a woman! I didn’t realize they drank at all until I worked in the liquor store.

    2. Michael Steele

      My uncle Daniel and his wife belong to the New Order Amish. I was blessed to be able to spend a summer with them when I was 15 and learn about their beliefs. I even considered joining the church but never followed through with it which sometimes I regret.

    3. Craig

      I would love to date or even marry a amish woman.They are the best wives a man could ask for.If any Amish woman wants to dtae outside the Amish community my email is CraigReilly20@Yahoo.com .If in the Philadelphia area

    4. Brad

      Most Amish families, at least the men and older women, will drink various forms of alcohol because like lemonade it is pleasant beverage meant to be enjoyed with friends and family. Unlike hard alcohol which can’t legally be made at home even by the Amish, many communities have a large group of brewers or vintners.

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