25 responses to The shooting in Connecticut
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    Kathy Rowe
    Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 17th, 2012 at 08:21)

    Unbelievable! Seems like we see one nightmare after another on the news. My heart aches for those families and the community. It could happen anywhere at any time. My thoughts and prayers are with those folks. The holidays will never be the same for them.

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    Anne
    Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 17th, 2012 at 09:01)

    Yes, the tragedy at nickel mines came to my mind immediately. We are living in terrible times and it will only get worse as our culture moves further from its Christian past…I wonder how God will use the events of nickel mines to comfort some if these families. Definitely a need for prayer and you are right, this will bring fresh grief to the Amish families who suffered in 2006. All are in need of prayer.

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    LeeAnn
    Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 17th, 2012 at 10:20)

    It brought back the memory of the Nickel Mines to me when I heard of the conn. shootings. I also wondered if the Amish would go to help comfort these families that are affected. So many from the english world reached out to the Amish when they had bad stuff happen to them.

    I think it would really help others, if the Amish could reach out in this time of sadness and share the grief.

    My heart goes to anyone that goes through something like this.

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      Lindsay Michaels
      Comment on amish (December 21st, 2012 at 21:31)

      amish

      I have Amish friends and think that they would be willing to counsel these folks as I think it would fall under “ministering” and I think I will call one of them tomorrow and ask, but I have no idea how that would be arranged. They would have to hire a van to bring them up.

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    Tim
    Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 17th, 2012 at 12:13)

    Not just for the Amish, but this is a time for true Christians to stand up and show Christ to others. And pray, more than ever, because as Erik said, they need more than “human power”.

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    Alice Mary
    Comment on All are victims... (December 17th, 2012 at 12:25)

    All are victims...

    Prayers and healing thoughts go out to all victims of this and all violence perpetrated against the innocent. I thought of my daughter, a 5th grade teacher, when I heard of this tragedy. She loves “her kids”, her students (she’s also the mother of a 21-month old daughter and pregnant with her second child). I know she would do anything possible to protect them from such horror, as would all the teachers (lay and clergy) that I’ve ever known. We need to teach and encourage respect & reponsibility, beginning at home. (And I personally know atheists who certainly agree with that, too.) Everything that happens on this earth is a lesson to us. We’re left to make sense of tragedy so that our progeny have an example of how to hold on to hope. God bless and keep all the victims, young and old, and especially the survivors who will carry this burden for the rest of their lives. Alice Mary

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    Mary
    Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 17th, 2012 at 14:06)

    Having lost a 10 yr. old grandson a little more then a year ago, I wept for these parents, siblings, and yes, the grandparents! My question to the public would be this…How can we expect God to never let something like this happen if He isn’t even allowed in the schools anymore?

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    Andrea
    Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 17th, 2012 at 14:16)

    So so sad, will be praying for the parents and familys of all that have lost there children. America you are in my prays. :-( xx

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    Claire
    Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 17th, 2012 at 15:16)

    Mary-
    In reply to your comment, I respectfully disagree. I do not believe God “lets” tragedies like this occur. However, I believe he comforts and carries us through the losses when they occur. Our God is not a vengeful God who allows innocent children to die, simply because he is not “allowed” in public schools. Indeed our God is mysterious, and we do not know why this occurred;however, what we do know is that it is part if God’s wonderful and mysterious plan. It is my personal opinion that he does not want things like this to occur, but he understands the evils of this world and is here to help and guide us through them. Anyways, that’s just my thought.

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      Mary
      Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 17th, 2012 at 18:49)

      So Claire, are you saying God DIDN’T let this happen? So why did it happen? Am I not understanding what you are trying to say? I whole heartedly agree with the rest of your post. But I’m not sure I understand what you mean by your first statement.

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        Claire
        Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 18th, 2012 at 07:54)

        Mary, that is a perfectly valid question. First, I would like to make it known that I too grieve with these families, what happened was devastating I can’t imagine what they’re feeling. Also, I don’t have all the answers, and am still searching in life. However, I am convicted that when you say “God” isn’t allowed in schools, that that isn’t true. God will make his presence known everywhere, and was indeed present during that tragedy. God gives us free choice, he allows us to make choices, and (I know it sounds cliche) but everything he allows to happen, happens for a reason. As previously mentioned, he has a plan, and he never promised it would be easy. God knows that these things will occur, but he promises that our Christian journey will be worth it. To address your question, it wasn’t that God let it happen or didn’t let it happen. Rather, it was the attack of the devil on those who were affected and others to lose one thing that is essential to humans- hope. No hope also means your faith takes a toll- whether it be your faith in humanity or God. The thing is, the devil is always trying to find a way to rid us of our faith/hope, and this is how he rids our hope and faith- in the case of the tragedy in Connecticut, taking advantage of the shooter, who was deemed mentally ill and harming our loved ones. It is essential to remain strong in our faith and pray for those in Connecticut.

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          Tim
          Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 18th, 2012 at 09:53)

          Amen Claire!

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          Mary
          Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 18th, 2012 at 13:27)

          I do appreciate what you wrote in this post and agree whole heartily. I actually did not mean that God wasn’t there, as I know He is everywhere. My thought was more on challenging the ‘unbelievers’ that want to dismiss God from the schools, etc. to…What do you expect, ignore that God exists until something like this happens, and then turn around and blame Him! (Who they say doesn’t exist.)Thanks for your input!

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          Alice Mary
          Comment on Here, there, everywhere! (December 18th, 2012 at 14:40)

          Here, there, everywhere!

          Claire, I certainly agree with your idea of God being everywhere. It’s just like when people complain that “prayer isn’t allowed in schools.” Heck, I was taught in my parochial school that we can pray “anywhere and everywhere”, at least in our hearts (which was always how I liked to pray, anyway!), so, there is SO “prayer” in schools (I’d have to add, “Especially at EXAM time!”) :)

          Alice Mary

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      Paul Walsh
      Comment on thank you Claire (December 18th, 2012 at 06:54)

      thank you Claire

      I agree with you 100% Claire

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    Lattice
    Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 17th, 2012 at 18:45)

    As a child, I can remember the little spark of anxiety I felt when my father wrapped up his prayers with, “Lord come quickly and take us home.” I liked our world and was a little fearful of leaving it for the unknown…no matter how wonderful Heaven sounded.

    As I have grown to know and love the Lord, I have tried to be mindful to lay up for myself treasures in Heaven.

    It’s important to remember that this world is not our home.

    I pray that if some similar tragedy struck our family, I would have the faith and trust to say (like Joseph did to his brothers) “you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good.” I don’t know that I could, well, I know I couldn’t by my own strength.

    I will continue to watch for the Lord to show his strength in our present weakness.

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    Carolyn B
    Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 18th, 2012 at 11:07)

    Erik, First –so glad the site is back up this morning. Thanks so much for trusting many of us with your direct email to let you know of such problems (even when you’re already aware of them.)

    David Letterman read a statistic on his show in the last couple days that said since 1994 there’d been 70 school shootings. Not sure of the whole criteria they used to determine this number. But that’s way too many in this old world.

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      Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 18th, 2012 at 17:12)

      Thank you Carolyn. I don’t know if that 70 shootings stat seems high or low to me. I am interested in knowing if the rate of these occurrences is accelerating.

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    Annmarie
    Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (December 18th, 2012 at 15:45)

    I agree with you completely Alice Mary…while there might not be organized pray….our children can pray in their hearts and minds everywhere. The problem with our society is that parents are not teaching their young children to pray or that God is first, others second and themselves LAST. I see parents who are raising their kids Christian and then are upset they are expected to bring their kids to Mass on Sunday….yet they can chauffeur them to all their sporting events. Those should be leisure activities after we put God first. I am so, so saddened by this world. …and I feel the need to hold all 5 a little closer this Holiday season. May God Bless all our families and see them all to a safe New Year. May we pray without ceasing!
    Some are saying when the Mayans predicted the end of the world…that they were referring to the end of HUMANITY as we know it! By the sequence of saddening news..it seems that just very well might be the case!

  • Nickel Mines Amish reaching out to Newtown families

    Following up on Joshua’s question, there is an AP story out today:

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    Members of the Amish community where a gunman killed five girls in a one-room schoolhouse in 2006 are writing letters in an effort to reach out in sympathy to grieving parents in Newtown, Conn.

    A farm services business owner who isn’t Amish has promised to drive the letters to Connecticut. He said Tuesday that he raised the idea over the weekend with the father of woman who was teaching the day the massacre occurred at West Nickel Mines Amish School.
    Jerry Feister, of Honey Brook, said “it just seems there’s a connection or bond there. I felt maybe we could try and offer, that is all.”

    The Intelligencer Journal/Lancaster New Era reported that the Amish were struggling to find the right words.

    “The grieving process is very personal,” one Amish father told the newspaper. “Right now, they’re in shock, so what can I write?”

    The rest: http://www.thereporteronline.com/article/20121218/NEWS03/121219488/shooting-brings-memories-for-amish-desire-to-help#full_story
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    There is also this from a couple of days ago in Lancaster Intelligencer Journal/New Era:

    http://lancasteronline.com/article/local/794070_Parents-of-victims-of-Nickel-Mines-schoolhouse-shootings-grieve-for-bereaved-parents-in-Newtown.html

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      Linda
      Comment on Amish to Newtown (June 21st, 2014 at 18:08)

      Amish to Newtown

      A bus load of Amish people went to Newtown, Connecticut, on Saturday, May 31, for an event, titled “Community Connections: A Day of Shared Experience.” It offered an opportunity to forge connections through shared experiences of trauma. Isolation can be a risk factor after a trauma. People from Virginia Tech and Columbine, Colorado, were also there.

      “Disembarking from a large tour bus, over thirty members of the Nickel Mines Amish Community gracefully crossed the threshold into the Newtown Community. Still grieving from their own 2006 horrific school shooting, there were survivors, teachers, EMS workers and parents of victims.
      Accompanying the Amish was Terri Roberts, the mother of the gunman. Terri came to speak about forgiveness – something the Amish community has bestowed upon both she and her son.”

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/suzy-hayman-deyoung/newtown-a-shared-experien_b_5511642.html?utm_hp_ref=impact&ir=Impact

      http://newtownbee.com/news/0001/11/30/day-shared-experience-emphasized-resiliency/212653

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    Alice Mary
    Comment on The shooting in Connecticut (June 21st, 2014 at 22:13)

    The pain has a ripple effect, reaching even farther over time.

    A good friend’s daughter (a young social worker) was sent to counsel survivors of the Chardon shooting just after it happened. It proved to be too much to bear, and not long afterward she experienced both a physical and emotional breakdown that forced a career change.

    I pray for anyone affected by these tragedies…no matter how far removed they seem to be.

    Alice Mary

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