49 responses to Amish magazine “The Connection”

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    Richard
    Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 9th, 2011 at 06:27)

    Id like to invite everyone to old order Mennonite Jeans post again on tuesday. She will explain in more detail about her plain life, and answers some readers questions as well.Please visit www.Amishstorys.com. Thanks folks.Richard from Lebanon county’s Amish settlement.

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    Alice Aber
    Amish Publications (May 9th, 2011 at 07:05)

    Amish Publications

    Greetings!

    Very interesting Erik. I never knew the Amish had so many publications. You are certainly right this one does look so much different than the few I have seen.

    I do have to wonder though, when or if a publication crosses the “plain” line and become “too worldly” or “too fancy”?

    Blessings, Alice

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      Too fancy? (May 9th, 2011 at 07:21)

      Too fancy?

      A great question Alice. I am sure some Amish would consider this a fancy publication.

      What is interesting though is that some of the writers are from quite conservative communities, including New Wilmington, PA, and also the Swiss community at Berne.

      By the looks of it I’d say more are from generally more progressive places like northern Indiana. But it is an interesting mix.

      • New blog feature: threaded comments

        By the way, there is a new feature on the blog here–if you’ve ever lost your place in a conversation here in the comments, we’re now testing out “threaded comments”.

        Basically at the end of each comment you’ll see the link “Reply to Comment”. Using this to reply will put your comment directly under the comment you are responding to (like I’ve done with Alice above). Otherwise you can just leave a comment in the normal fashion and it will appear at the bottom as usual.

        Hopefully that will make it easier to follow a thread of discussion…We’ll see how it works!

        New blog feature: threaded comments

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          Alice Aber
          Threaded comments (May 9th, 2011 at 07:31)

          Threaded comments

          I just tried it Erik. I think it is a good idea. Thanks for adding it. This way you know your response to a particular comment will be placed by that comment and not get lost. Some subjects get a lot of responses. This will make it easier to reply to one particular response. Thanks!!

          Alice

          • Great! Looking forward to feedback as to what you all think about it. Since the weekend there are a few other small changes (I don’t know if anyone noticed :) ) and have a few more in store.

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              Alice Aber
              Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 9th, 2011 at 07:40)

              I like the dashed lines around some of the post boxes too. I am not really awake yet, been a rough few days so I am just not seeing everything. I’ll have to look again later, LOL

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              Alice Aber
              Threading (May 9th, 2011 at 07:52)

              Threading

              OK Erik, now that we have several comments threaded together I am not sure I like it this way. I see there are boxes sort of tying the threads together but it does seem to make the other conversations hard to follow.

              Take a look at genealogy.com and see how theirs are threaded. It might give you some ideas.

              The problem I see happening here is some will forget to hit the “Reply to Comment” in the post box and go to the bottom to do it when that should be used to start a new comment. (hope that makes sense). But to me it will wind up being more of a jumbled up mess than before.

              Just my opinion

              Threading

              • You might be right on that Alice. We’ll see here. At least on the one hand those that remember to use “reply to comment” will have their comments in order. With the original way, all comments go to the bottom, regardless of whether you want to connect yours to someone else’s or not. So at least there is the option.

                I am not sure if I am pro/anti yet either though. I am actually just working through the blog software and am not a programmer so am a bit more limited in what I can do with the comments system. But maybe we’ll see how this goes a bit yet.

                Amish magazine “The Connection”

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                  Alice Aber
                  Threading (May 9th, 2011 at 08:05)

                  Threading

                  Of course Erik, and I might not care for it because I am not totally used to it yet either. I got used to going to the bottom to look for replies. Ya gotta teach this old dog a new trick, LOL.

                  • No worries, I know what you mean Alice :) Basically, if it ends up generally helping the flow of conversation we’ll keep it, if not we’ll yank it. We’ll just let it ride for awhile to see.

                    Also, the Comment Title function I hope is useful for finding/labeling a certain topic.

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                      Alice Aber
                      Threading (May 9th, 2011 at 08:25)

                      Threading

                      I have been trying to remember that comment title too, but I see you have not, LOL. Geez, there might be hope for me yet and I just might get the hang of it, LOL.

                      Well, I had better get offline and get to my laundry which I should have started a couple of hours ago. Moving slow this morning for some reason, LOL.

                      Have a good day!

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    Alice Aber
    Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 9th, 2011 at 07:26)

    Erik, do you think in general terms Amish are gradually becoming less conservative? Perhaps in a way that does not really compromise their core values in beliefs? After all they seem a little less conservative when it comes to business.

    Alice

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      Amish change (May 9th, 2011 at 07:31)

      Amish change

      Alice another good q, I’d say that the Amish are always changing, and some Amish are changing faster than others.

      Amish 100 or 200 years ago also changed but the contrasts were not so bold, since the distance from Amish life to mainstream life was not so great (ie, “back then”, horse transportation was standard, there were fewer gadgets, etc).

      Even the plainest Amish like Swartzentruber Amish change over time. The difference is some really emphasize putting the brakes on and are very slow to adopt change. And groups will always draw the line as to what is okay in different places.

      And some will eventually migrate away from the Amish into a more progressive form. This actually happened in a widespread fashion in the 1800s when many Amish joined more progressive movements and many became Mennonite. At the end of that century there were only about 5000 Old Order Amish.

      Amish change

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        Alice Aber
        Amish Change (May 9th, 2011 at 07:47)

        Amish Change

        Guess I am full of great questions today Erik, or umm full of something anyway, ;-) LOL.

        Correct me if I am wrong but were not the Amish from the Mennonites originally? Then in the 1800s many went back to the Mennonites? I find that interesting.

        • That is right Alice. When the Amish split off in 1693 the issues were mainly how shunning should be applied and also how often Communion should be held. I don’t know if we’d be able to tell a lot of obvious outward differences between the two at that point in time. You also had a variety of different movements and Mennonite groups in the 1800s.

          Steve Nolt in A History of the Amish does a much better job with it than I ever could, if you are interested further.

          Amish magazine “The Connection”

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            Alice Aber
            Amish Change (May 9th, 2011 at 08:02)

            Amish Change

            Thanks Erik, I will have to see if they can get that book for me at the library. Isn’t it interesting they split, for what we might think of as “minor differences” at the time and today in general we hold the Amish in a higher esteem than the Mennonites or at least the Amish seem to be more popular as far as outsiders go? I am sure a lot has changed since then.

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            Primitive Christianity
            Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 9th, 2011 at 09:32)

            Erik, you have to get Leroy Beachy’s new book, “Unser Leut” (sp?) Despite the German title, it is English. He has spent 10 years writing and researching, and has come to a new historical analysis of the Amish/Mennonite “split.” I havent read it myself, mainly because it is a 2-volume leather bound edition with a hefty tag of $70. :-) A friend of mine is reading it and says it is well done, very well illustrated, and that Leroy proves his case that the Amish were actually a fresh influx of converts to Anabaptism that challenged the status quo of a movement gone drowsy. But rather than being a “progressive” bunch, the newcomers were actually trying to return to the former strictness that was slacking off. Of course, the “old-timers” werent too excited about all these new guys trying to straighten them out. Kind of a familiar tune …
            Mike

            Amish magazine “The Connection”

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              Unser Leit (May 9th, 2011 at 09:41)

              Unser Leit

              Mike, thanks for bringing up Unser Leit. I keep hearing about it and it is on the reading list. I will need to pick up–or borrow ;)–a copy when I am back home in the US in a couple months. But I’ve heard it is a hefty read.

              Or maybe it will be out on the Kindle one of these days ;)

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                Amish and Kindle usage? (May 9th, 2011 at 09:43)

                Amish and Kindle usage?

                On that random note I have been wondering lately (actually half-seriously) what Kindle penetration into Amish society is like.

                After all it is a pretty Plain device when you come down to it–black and white, doesn’t do much besides display books, and even the internet browser it comes with is pretty clunky, ie not video enabled, only loads one page at a time, refreshes slow (though somehow I’m still fond of it for its clunkiness).

                Amish and Kindle usage?

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    Alice Aber
    Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 9th, 2011 at 07:27)

    Ooops should say and beliefs not in beliefs, LOL sorry.

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    Richard
    Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 9th, 2011 at 07:42)

    I think i must have read almost all of these Amish publications, with the connection being one of them with a 1 year subscription at one time. I’m pretty sure quite a bit of the people who receive any one of these are non-Amish, and id love to see the demographics of the subscribers. Richard from Penn.

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    Ann Whitaker
    Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 9th, 2011 at 09:37)

    Erik,
    Thank you for this wonderful article. One of my husband’s favorite places to eat is in Topeka, Indiana–it’s called Tiffany’s. Thanks for the memories.

    I also enjoy reading “Keepers at Home.”

    Keep up your great work! :)
    Ann

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    Matthew
    Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 9th, 2011 at 10:56)

    Erik,

    We often pass the Flat Rock School in Milroy – Milroy is a wonderful – albeit somewhat progressive Amish community, but not quite so small anymore! If I correctly recall my conversation with of the members of the Amish Church there a few years back, there are apx. 120 families there. We recently attended attended their spring consignment school auction (it would have been more appropriate to call it a “mud sale” with all the rain we’ve had in the midwest US in the past month). They’ll have another one in the fall which is larger – they usually have about five or six auctions going on simultaneously at that one. If you haven’t been to an Amish auction before, it can be somewhat overwhelming, but well worth the experience (especially the food!).

    Amish magazine “The Connection”

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      Milroy Amish (May 9th, 2011 at 11:02)

      Milroy Amish

      Matthew, great that you brought up Milroy. I spent 3 days in this community in 2004. Nice folks there.

      When I was there it was 4 church districts and according to the 2011 Almanac that looks to be the same today. I didn’t go to any auctions, but remember meeting a horse dealer, though I think he’s moved away since.

      The Milroy history is interesting–it is actually a bit of a combination of Swiss Amish and Pennsylvania Dutch Amish families, which is not typical.

      Milroy Amish

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    Marjorie King
    A totally different subject (May 9th, 2011 at 13:09)

    A totally different subject

    Hello Erik,
    This is interesting, I am thinking about subscribing to one or more of these publications.
    On a different topic, have you already discussed or do you know anything about Amish life-expectancy as compared to the nation as a whole?
    Thank you for a great blog, I really enjoy reading it.

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      Amish life expectancy (May 9th, 2011 at 13:58)

      Amish life expectancy

      Marjorie, thanks for the question and the kind comments! And “A totally different subject” sounds fine, I like your comment title :)

      Off the top of my head, I don’t know anything specific on Amish life expectancy. There may have been some studies but would need to check.

      You do see stories about Amish being fitter or healthier in some categories (off the top of my head weight, I believe some type of cancer) but don’t know how that translates into life expectancy (Just a note on weight I don’t know how skinny Amish are or how well the studies extrapolate over all Amish. Certain Amish have worse diets than others, and there are overweight and even obese Amish).

      Amish also face certain genetic diseases basically unseen in the general population. I’d also suspect that the incidence of death by accidents is relatively higher due to the farm work and manual labor orientation.

      On the other hand alcoholism is low as is tobacco use, compared to the general pop.

      Amish life expectancy

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    Bob Rosier
    Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 9th, 2011 at 19:27)

    I recommend “Family Life” especially if you have children. I have subscribed for many years. There are always nice stories, and puzzles for the kids. I have also sent in some comments and they have published about half of these. If an article brings up a question, a comment to the editor will normally generate a response.

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    Slightly-handled-Order-man
    Applauding Erik’s efforts (May 9th, 2011 at 21:28)

    Applauding Erik’s efforts

    Hey, Erik, I like what one can do in the blog replies now. Usually I just type a person’s name and try to answer or comment. But it all works out in the end. I want to say that I appreciate the wonderful work you’ve done on and for this blog, very well done, sir!

    The Connection looks like an interesting publication. I have too much reading material to subscribe to these right now.

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    Paul A Miller
    Unser leit by Leroy Beachy (May 9th, 2011 at 21:38)

    Unser leit by Leroy Beachy

    To all who are thinking about reading “Unser Leit” sometime – if you really are interested in reliable research about Amish origins presented in a readable manner, cut out some other expenses NOW and buy the book! Leroy Beachy sheds new light on the purported Amish / Mennonite split. It was actually a division between disparate Swiss Anabaptist groups. Anyway…Unser Leit dispels the long-held misconception about a tyrannical Ammon banning and shunning Mennonite brethren who would not submit to his heavy handed church administration. By the way, I am a Beachy-Amish from Millersburg, OH, living in Holmes County in a small town named Trail. Paul

    Unser leit by Leroy Beachy

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    OldKat
    Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 9th, 2011 at 21:39)

    Erik, on my monitor it looks like the “linked” boxes are only 1 or maybe two words wide per line. So that makes for a r-e-a-l l-o-n-g & s-k-i-n-n-e-y post. Is anyone else seeing this or is just unique to my view?

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    Marcus Yoder
    Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 10th, 2011 at 04:40)

    Paul A. Miller do you work at the Mennonite Heritage center?
    Marcus Yoder London,Ohio

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    TomK
    Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 10th, 2011 at 06:46)

    I see as the replys to a comment get more the boxes get thinner, until it like 1 word a line… LOL

  • Skinny comments; threaded comments now disabled

    Tom, Oldkat, thanks for letting me know about the skinny replies in the threaded comments.

    It’s set up to max out at 10 replies to prevent this. I do not see this but I have disabled threaded comments for the time being. Comments should appear as normal now.

    If you don’t mind sharing I am curious what browser you are using as this might be part of the issue. Or if you have a sec feel free to drop me a quick email at ewesner(at)gmail.com .

    Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience, we’ll just have to put the threaded comments test on hold for now.

    Skinny comments; threaded comments now disabled

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    Alice Aber
    Threading (May 10th, 2011 at 09:07)

    Threading

    Erik, I had no problem with things getting smaller. But now I do not see the threading at all.

    Alice

  • Hi Alice, I suspect it is not a common issue, it may actually be related to the browser as well.

    If you read the comment above I wrote that I just disabled it for the time being until/if I can figure out why. I don’t have time now but am going to try to investigate a bit later today. Sorry for the fluctuations!

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    sherry
    Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 10th, 2011 at 09:18)

    The connection is a wonderful paper I know an amish lady that works there Mary Alice Yoder very sweet lady we have became good friends.

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    Alice Aber
    Amish magazine “The Connection” (May 10th, 2011 at 09:22)

    Ooops,,,, I read that comment Erik but read it wrong. I thought you meant you disabled threads for your view only, LOL. Sorry about that.

    Hope you get it worked out and have a good day.

    Alice

  • Sure thing Alice no worries, you too!

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    Paul A Miller
    Unser leit by Leroy Beachy (May 10th, 2011 at 17:24)

    Unser leit by Leroy Beachy

    To Marcus Yoder from London, OH — no, I don’t work at Amish Mennonite Heritage Center in Berlin. Paul J. Miller is the director there. (There are lots of us Paul Millers in Holmes County) Paul

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    Emma
    Table of Contents (May 18th, 2011 at 20:55)

    Table of Contents

    I picked up a copy of The Diary in Gordonville, PA a month ago. I thought about subscribing but I have to say, The Connection looks “more fun”. Erik, could you post a larger photo of the TOC so that I can see what sort of stuff I can expect in the The Connection.

    Thanks!

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    kristin jager
    The Connection and other publications (May 19th, 2011 at 05:44)

    The Connection and other publications

    I knew that there were some publications out there, but I really had no idea what each contained. A friend did send me a copy of the Budget, so I did get a glimpse of what it looked like. I wish to thank you for describing the differences between the “Connection” and “Family Life.”

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    Joseph
    Amish Life (December 25th, 2011 at 06:32)

    Amish Life

    I have been photographying the Amish for some twenty five years and they have changed in their ways that reflect the need for growth and prosperity. They are not a static group. I do believe that within about 20-50 years they will have gotten to what we outsiders saw in the 1950s. Its a slow growth community that can’t stand stand still. The “Back to the Future” mentality is/has eroded greatly do to their own “need” to progress while standing still. They are a very loving and happy people and remind us all of a simplier time that they are moving away from faster then they want to admit. Enjoy the scene – it will be gone – sooner than a geologic eyeblink.

    Joseph

    Amish Life

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    Tony Feger
    Property for sale or rent (December 26th, 2011 at 11:23)

    Property for sale or rent

    I have an Amish house and land for sale or rent near Willard WI.
    The house is 1500 sq/ft with buggy garage and wood shed. There is also a large pole building 4500 sq/ft concrete floor and stable on one end. Building was previous used to build storage sheds and cabins. It has a storage loft, large sliding doors, etc., Located on a secluded dead end road. Land is apox. 5 acres. House and buildings are 5 years old. Large fenced garden.

    Contact Tony 972-342-7741
    4768 Parkwood Drive, Rockwall, TX 75032

    Property for sale or rent

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    Denise Schrock
    recipe book (September 24th, 2013 at 19:16)

    recipe book

    i am interested in buying a connection recipe book i heard that u guys take all the recipes from the beginning to the present recipes & make a book just wanted some info call me (217)578-3849 instead of emailing me please
    Thanks!
    Denise Schrock

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