3 responses to What do Amish think about atheists?
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    Amy
    Comment on Internet Atheist (August 6th, 2016 at 20:36)

    Internet Atheist

    Christians like to reason, as well.To assume we are irrational is rather insulting. Also, you generalize your entire generatio, making assumptions that they are all agnostic or atheist. This it’s simply untrue. You do have many valid points, however. Would You read the post above yours and give me your thoughts?

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    Internet Atheist
    Comment on What do Amish think about atheists? (August 7th, 2016 at 21:07)

    I encourage you to reread the post you are responding to. I did not directly accuse Christians of being unreasonable, nor did I comment on the religious status of my generation.

    Your post points to some books for me to read and states that they are evidence. I will politely decline your offer the same way I imagine you would politely decline this reading. If you wish to persuade someone of something, the most courteous way to do so is to present an argument. I say this after having been presented with the Quran, a book series pertaining to scientology, and one regarding Hinduism as if they were arguments for one conclusion or another. If you are more willing to read other people’s recommended reading, feel free to check out Bertrand Russel’s Value of Philosophy.

    Your post then moves to state that morality originates from a higher power. I will respond by stating that I am a materialist and not a substance dualist. I do not believe morality exists as anything other than an idea or social construct, much like words or numbers. I believe the behavior of social animals can be explained as a product of evolution. This would explain why some people seem to be born with certain moral attitudes, whilst others don’t. I don’t see the difference between labeling a certain morality objective or legitimate and saying you agree with that morality.

    Your series of rhetorical questions starting with “If we, without knowledge from a higher power, all know the difference between right and wrong, why are we so at odds?” I’ll answer with variability of moral sensibilities. Some people feel remorse or reluctance towards certain actions, and some people don’t.

    That’s about as much of a response as you’re going to get from me. If you’re looking for someone to argue with, go to a youtube comments section on a video criticizing religious arguments. I’m sure if you take inventory of the arguments in the books you’ve cited, you’ll see quite a few of those arguments addressed by youtubers(such as TheThinkingAtheist). If not, I bet said youtubers would be more than happy to entertain whatever arguments you’ve got.

    I just came here to state that I admire the Amish for the traits they demonstrate that are so lacking in my peers, but lament the fact that I’ll never be welcomed into their communities because of religious differences.

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      Amy
      Comment on Internet Atheist (August 8th, 2016 at 11:01)

      Internet Atheist

      Why do you assume I want an argument. I hate arguing and I hate confrontation.

      Stating an opinion and asking for your opinion do not constitute an argument. I believe people can disagree without arguing.

      It does sound like you are calling Christians, and anyone with faith in God, unreasonable. The reason I state this is that you basically say you believe in evidence- based reasoning. The assumption, based on what you say regarding evidence and reason, is that people of faith lack both.

      You also do lump your entire generation together as lacking certain things. This is a blanket judgment that I feel is incorrect for two reasons–you don’t know every person from your generation and therefore, cannot make an accurate judgment of their ethics. No one could. Two, anyone of your generation who has accepted Christ or follows a moral set of beliefs based on ethical religious practices may possess some of these traits due to a cultural upbringing but would not possess all of them because they would have been taught differently.

      I’d like to say that my questions are not rhetorical. I’m familiar with the Thinking Atheist and find his information to be lacking I sound theological knowledge.

      We all learn from books. The reason I list them is because, while a person can discuss certain points on a blog, it’s impossible to do much justice in such a forum. I will gladly look up the book you mentioned. We should all be open to knowing the arguments of those with whom we agree and disagree.

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