15 responses to Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish
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    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (February 7th, 2007 at 22:31)

    Hi Erik, thanks for mentioning my book in this most interesting post. I’ll be watching your site for more info. I posted a picture of Stutzman taken last year on www.crimerant.com.
    Gregg Olsen

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    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (February 8th, 2007 at 05:09)

    Thanks Gregg, I appreciate it–will keep it coming. And thanks for the great coverage on crimerant.com. I just checked out the photos and the letter you posted from Stutzman’s friend Charles–powerful.

    Erik Wesner/Amish America

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    karlakamper
    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (September 26th, 2007 at 15:43)

    Are the Amish in Ethridge Tennessee Swartzentruber Amish?

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    karlakamper
    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (September 26th, 2007 at 15:51)

    Or are the people here in Ethridge ‘Mennonites’?

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    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (September 26th, 2007 at 23:13)

    karla, off the top of my head I am not 100% sure but I think so, or are at least of a related group. In any case as I understand the Ethridge Amish maintain a pretty conservative Ordnung.

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    karlakamper
    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (September 27th, 2007 at 07:40)

    I had never heard of ‘Swartzentruber’ Amish. I had, of course, heard the tern ‘Old Order’ and assumed that the Amish here in Ethridge were Old Order.

    The name Swartzentruber rang a bell for me because when we moved here I checked the state’s sex offender regsitry (I have kids and wondered who my new neighbors were going to be) and the nearest offender to our home turned out to be an Amish man whose last name was Swartzentruber, who was convicted of incest. There is nothing sadder looking than an Amish mug shot!

    I am sometimes bothered by the way the Amish are treated as a tourist attraction, especially the little children.

    Some people say that the lifestyle itself is child abuse…to make the children wear dark clothing in the heat of summer work so hard from a young age, and to be deprived of basic modern comforts. These things don’t worry me that much because these kids are basically having the same upbringing my Daddy did, and he has a good work ethic.

    I do worry about the lack of schooling, and the seeming lack of real accountability for the Amish outside of their community when it comes to child welfare.

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    Comment on Plugging holes in Amish education (September 28th, 2007 at 04:37)

    Plugging holes in Amish education

    On the lack of schooling issue, I think the Amish system has worked well, considering what their occupations and lifestyle have traditionally been like. Eight grades will usually suffice, though some Amish business people complain of a lack of certain skills that would aid them in running their businesses, and either have to take supplementary courses or rely on people from outside to take care of certain aspects (ie accounting).

    I think the Amish have a hard time when they leave, or choose not to become Amish. Eight grades may be enough in the Amish community but is not very much out of it. Some Amish parents send their kids to high school but that is very rare.

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    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (December 1st, 2007 at 18:59)

    I always thought the Amish in Orange County, Indiana were Old Order, but after reading about the Swartzentruber Amish, I think ours are more like them. On my Flickr site I have a set called “The Amish Community” with quite a few pics of the Orange County, IN Amish. I just found your site and will look forward to exploring it further.

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    VonWolfen
    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (December 13th, 2007 at 19:42)

    The Amish of Ethridge are, in fact, Schwartzentruber Amish. There is one small (15-20 family) group of a new group called “Miller Amish” which appear as Schwartzentruber to most.

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    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (December 16th, 2007 at 09:12)

    Thanks for the info and pics, Von Wolfen and Cindy.

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    John Fox
    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (March 26th, 2008 at 17:47)

    I am English. We have been friends from the Schwartzentruber group. We write letters to each other on a regular basis. We have spent 8 days with them on their farm. My comment: Leave them alone! We love them as if they were family. We do not discuss religion, and have learned how to respect their religious feelings.

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    Joel Bontrager
    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (June 30th, 2008 at 17:52)

    the amish at ethridge tn are indeed of the swartzentruber demoniniation. they also have a splionter group called the abe group, but they are much the same in practice.

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    Jason P Adams
    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (April 3rd, 2010 at 07:55)

    It’s a sad story all the way around. The Amish I’ve been in contact with were all good people. They actually left me in “awe” of their strict lifestyles. Eli is explaining his side of the story to his maker about now.

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    Susan
    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (August 1st, 2010 at 00:36)

    I have been in the homes of Swartzentruber Amish, and Old Order Amish, in MN and WI as part of business, and have been welcomed. I have also worked in sexual assault as a victim advocate. I think that like other groups of people who isolate themselves, the lifestyle makes it easy for an offender to hide his actions. But there are good and bad in every community, every people, regardless of religion. I think the Swartzentruber Amish have probably not fully earned the bad reputation they’ve been given.

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    Comment on Eli Stutzman and the Swartzentruber Amish (September 2nd, 2010 at 13:15)

    Susan, well said.

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