33 responses to Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse
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    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 09:39)

    As the only reporter on scene that night, I can assure you there reports made by the teens that night were not conflicting. They clearly stated they believed the incident was intentional. That was also reported by at least one eye witness. As to why the police issued a press release saying no one reported that is a mystery.

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    Linda
    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 10:01)

    Was it a buggy or a wagon (like a hay wagon with rubber tires)? Was it Amish or horse-and-buggy Mennonites?

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      Lance
      Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 10:17)

      It is was the small open wagon with built in seats and small rubber air tires that is becoming common in progressive Amish groups as a large people transporter or stuff hauler.

      These were Amish, the horse and buggy Mennonites are no where near this area.

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        Lance
        Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 11:01)

        The buggy in the accident is pictured on Stacey’s website. The seats are dislodged and the buggy was knocked off the roadway. You can see the dead horse, but not the wound nor any blood.

        To go to her website, click on her underlined name next to her name above. The articles and picture are in the older posts, so go to the bottom of the page and click on ‘older posts’ until you find the article. Click on the picture until you get the enlarged version so you can see it. It is dark which makes it somewhat hard to see the black buggy.

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      Mignonne
      Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 18:22)

      Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse

      Education is the key to understanding, and acceptable behavior. Lack of education when it comes to cultural awareness and social skills is a sure fire way to allow prejudice, racism, and bigotry to flourish.

      Lack of discipline, and learning about consequences in the home while growing up is another big factor.

      Let’s not leave out our media/govt in this mix either who bombard us with commercials, propaganda, etc. telling us how we can pop a pill to fix just about anything, selling us neat electronic gadgets that work at the speed of light, etc. It’s all about instant gratification which is completely selfish.

      So as appalling and horrifying as actions like this guys were, how can we honestly expect better behavior from people who have never learned any better? We, society as a whole, must do better as well with raising and educating our children if we expect things to improve.

      It is my personal belief that it should be mandatory for schools to teach cultural awareness classes from the very beginning of one’s educational experience. It would certainly go a long way in preventing a large amount of the hateful, selfish, and destructive behavior we see in today’s world.

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    linda
    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 10:17)

    In reply to Linda’s comment. what difference does it matter if it was a hay wagon or Amish or Mennonites ? This guy should be punished severely. Sent to jail and license taken away from him.

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    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 10:23)

    Thankful the teens were not injured but it is still upsetting!

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    Roberta
    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 11:28)

    I don’t give a flying rat’s ass whether it was a hay wagon or a goat cart! What kind of a question is that? He TURNED AROUND to come back and hit them! This guy is seriously dangerous and should be locked up for a long time where he can’t hurt someone else. THIS TIME it was the horse. But he had no way of knowing that in hitting the horse he would kill the horse outright and not do some damage that would seriously injure or kill the kids. He did it anyway and that makes him a very dangerous person. What, or who, is he going to kill next time?

    • Roberta I understand this may be an upsetting topic but there is nothing wrong with asking that question. There may be a reason for it that you or I do not see. Even if not directly relevant to the man’s actions there is nothing wrong with being curious about the details of the incident.

      Also I would appreciate it if you refrained from using the vulgar language. I believe others would too.

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    Moira
    Comment on horrible (October 4th, 2012 at 12:03)

    horrible

    This is just horrible. The poor horse! This Gonzalez jerk needs to sit in jail for some time and reimburse the Amish person for their horse (they’re not cheap!). The blatant aggression and hostility is disturbing. That there are people out there that do these kinds of things (the robberies too)without any thought or an ounce of compassion and concern for another being is so upsetting to me. I always want to apologize to the Amish community when I read about things like this, I feel so bad about it. No wonder the Amish keep as much distance as possible between our world and theirs. Ours sure is mean and cruel.

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    Marilyn in New York
    Comment on Hit-and-Run Driver (October 4th, 2012 at 12:28)

    Hit-and-Run Driver

    I am glad the boys were not hurt and any one with a blood content that car driver had shouldn’t be on the road. But, unfortunately, sometimes they are. I use to work in the insurance business for many years and when the boys change the story reminds me of the insurance sort of unwritten rules when something like this happens. There are three sides to every accident: the insured’s, the claimaints and what really happened.

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    Lattice
    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 12:30)

    It says Gonzales had a blood alcohol level of 0.17. How “drunk” is that? Is there any possibility that this was not a “hate” crime, but a hasty maneuver by an intoxicated driver? Has anybody heard Gonzales’ story?

    What if he got a call or something that made him really mad, and he turned around and sped back, and, intoxicated as he was, he either forgot that the vehicle was horse-drawn, or misjudged.

    I just wish I knew what he said about the matter.

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      Carolyn B
      Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 14:16)

      Lattice, to give you a reference re: the blood alcohol level: In Missouri the legal level of intoxication is .08 so this driver was over double the legal limit for the state of Missouri.

      I don’t know if this is a federal level or what other level may be legal in other states.

      Glad no human beings were killed in this event.

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        Traci Banville
        Comment on Glad no human beings were killed ....... (October 11th, 2012 at 22:52)

        Glad no human beings were killed .......

        So is it forgiveable to kill an innocent animal ?

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      Traci Banville
      Comment on His side of the story ? (October 11th, 2012 at 23:09)

      His side of the story ?

      No explanation could suffice.Nothing could ever justify such mindless and heartless behavior.Are you implying that he was “provoked” ? Yes, that is probably what his lawyer will use as a “defense”. How sad.

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    Robin
    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 15:55)

    I just don’t understand why people harbor so much hate and act with total disregard. This guy needs to be prosecuted to the fullest, endangering lives and animal cruelty.

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    David
    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 19:18)

    “Stupid is what stupid does.” – Forrest Gump

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      Traci Banville
      Comment on Quotes (October 11th, 2012 at 22:59)

      Quotes

      Actually, it is –

      “Stupid is, as stupid does.”
      – Forrest Gump

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    LeeAnn
    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 19:27)

    So glad the kids were not hurt. Thanks to Stacey for setting the record straight. Nice to know the reporter that was there, stood up for what was really said!

    I hope people will wake up and start being more careful around the horse and buggies out there. Alot of sad things have happened to the Amish lately.

    They are good people and they show others kindness. Would like others to do the same back for the Amish. Treat them, how you want to be treated by others.

    The blood alcohol level for that driver was higher than most states will allow. Hope he has to repay for the loss of the horse. Also hope the Amish will accept that payment.

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      Traci Banville
      Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 11th, 2012 at 23:04)

      And just how do you put a price on a horse that you may have bred, raised, and trained ? That was part of your family ? That was not an inanimate object like a car or a bicycle that would be easily payed for and replaced if one had the money ? You have apparently never been owned by a horse.

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    Slightly-handled-Order-man
    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 4th, 2012 at 20:52)

    I don’t want to stereotype the car driver, whose picture we could see on the news site and blog, so I won’t comment about it except to say that I don’t want to stereotype. Although deciding not to write out a stereotype I must admit I did stereotype the person, which is sad.
    I glanced through the online story and am I wrong in recounting that the car driver did have a criminal record? Maybe a disregard for the law and callousness toward any form of life could be derived from such an item regardless of one’s ancestral background. Not to stereotype or be prejudice, but people could think that. Again, I don’t want to prejudice or stereotype people.

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    Ed
    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (October 5th, 2012 at 03:54)

    Posts like these make me glad I live in the middle of the big city. I feel safer knowing there are lots of people around, all the time.

    At least, wal-mart parking lots apparently have cameras. In the past, people would not be prosecuted for this sort of criminal act simply because there was nothing to document what happened.

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    Alice Mary
    Comment on Heartless! (October 5th, 2012 at 13:10)

    Heartless!

    I’m late in reading this post and all commentary.

    What an awful thing to do! Thank God the boys are OK. That poor horse—if it truly did die instantly, it was merciful. It brings back memories of photos of dead horses in the streets in the 19th century. Horrific!

    If there are animal cruelty laws there, they ought to throw the book at him in that regard as well as the DUI count. Where I live (IL), the alcohol limit is the same (.08).

    Please keep us informed about this case. It should be featured by the media at least as much as the “beard-cutting” incident & sentencing!

    Alice Mary

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    Traci Banville
    Comment on Update ? (November 29th, 2012 at 10:43)

    Update ?

    Is there an update to this story ?

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    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (November 29th, 2012 at 11:03)

    Gonzalez was in court on Nov. 1 for an initial hearing and entered a plea of not guilty. A pre-trial conference is set for Dec. 6, 2012 at 10:45 a.m.; status hearing scheduled for Dec 31, 2012 at 9:45 a.m. and an omnibus hearing set for Jan. 11. There really is nothing new transpiring, but watch for a plea agreement to be entered.

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    Traci Banville
    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (December 1st, 2012 at 22:05)

    Not guilty ? Why am I not surprised ?

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    Linda
    Comment on Hit-and-run driver accused of intentionally killing Amish horse (November 9th, 2013 at 15:21)

    According to Stacey Page, “The man who drove drunk and slammed into a horse pulling a wagon load of Amish teens last fall will spend approximately 18 months in county work release.”

    http://www.staceypageonline.com/2013/11/07/work-release-for-drunk-driving-horse-death/

    • Here’s some more from Stacey Page. He was in another accident Friday:

      http://www.staceypageonline.com/2013/11/08/breaking-one-flown-from-warsaw-accident/

      http://www.staceypageonline.com/2013/11/12/new-charges-being-filed-against-gonzalez/

      Not a guy I’d want behind the wheel in my neighborhood.

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