7 responses to Gas pains revisited
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    Comment on Gas pains revisited (June 1st, 2008 at 10:00)

    Amish America Quote:
    Good to keep in mind when you read anything about the Amish being isolated from the outside world. Culturally, maybe. But economically? Hardly.

    OldKat’77 said:
    You are correct about this. When I was talking with the John, the Amish truck farmer / horse trainer that trained my driving horses, we started discussing high diesel prices. At first I was surprised that he even cared, but he reminded me that he used diesel to run his irrigation engine.

    At one time I worked on the natural gas trading floor for what was then the largest domestic producer of natural gas. Because of that I can sometimes get a little too technical when discussing market signals with anyone. Since I am aware of this, I was trying to be very simplistic with John. Then he started mentioning some aspects of the whole situation that were, in fact, fairly technical. When I mentioned that I was suprised that he was that attuned to the issue he said; “Well, we try not to be too ignorant of what is going on”. Ignorant he is NOT! He is a very well informed and astute individual. I was wondering how common that is in the Amish community.

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    Comment on Gas pains revisited (June 1st, 2008 at 16:06)

    I think we too often believe the amish are totally isolated when they aren’t. The economy affects them just as well as it does the rest of the world. It is sure to pinch them a bit with fewer people traveling and as you said the higher cost of shipping goods. The amish are seperate from the modern world, not immune from all the economic effects!

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    Comment on Gas pains revisited (June 1st, 2008 at 21:46)

    I was thinking about this very question today when I was riding through Topeka, Indiana. That place has had a big RV industry, and I wondered how the changes have affected Amish employment. I did notice that the RV industry hasn’t disappeared altogether. Several pickups towing RVs were on the road with me. But I didn’t see the acres of new RVs that I used to see on the west end of Topeka.

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    Comment on Gas pains revisited (June 1st, 2008 at 21:49)

    I also wonder to what extent the Amish grow feed for their horses vs growing their own. The increase in grain prices (not unrelated to the cost of fuel) could be hurting more than helping them in some cases.

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    Comment on Hilly areas for biking--northern Indiana Amish country (June 2nd, 2008 at 02:00)

    Hilly areas for biking--northern Indiana Amish country

    Spokesrider you’ve made me a bit jealous riding through that beautiful country–The southern and northern sides of the settlement get a bit hilly in places unlike most of the area as I’m sure you know–I particularly like those parts–I also love the east side of the settlement, once you get past Emma town…on the whole it’s one of my favorite Amish communities to visit. And I imagine it’s probably a lot easier riding the flat grid-layout of the roads than say the serpentine gravel lanes in much of Holmes County. And interesting to hear the first-hand observation on RVs.

    On grain I am no expert, I know a lot like to let them graze if they’ve got the land, but you’ve got to have the land, and I don’t think it works too well in the winter…

    OldKat I think you find a lot of street smarts among the Amish. Love the comment he made on not being ignorant, I think that hits the nail on the head–especially if it is an issue that is relevant to their lives.

    Michelle I agree and I think they were much more isolated when they were largely farmers. Now with many more Amish in business and factory work, they have inevitably opened up. When you see Amish kids bouncing on trampolines and playing hand-held video games, it makes you think twice about the popular idea of the Amish. Though of course you won’t find those devices everywhere…

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    Dave Carrig
    Comment on Gas pains revisited (June 22nd, 2008 at 05:04)

    Been a long time since I checked out the blog – glad to see its still going strong and that you’ve picked up a few more readers along the way.

    No argument from me that gas prices are affecting the Amish but I believe that ultimately they are more equipped to handle an energy crisis than us “english” are and should the economy continue to crumble the way it is I think they’ll be more equipped to handle that as well. The bottom line – they don’t depend on the “essentials” of the world like the rest of us do and ultimately that means they would be more ready for a crash in the economy than the rest of us. Just my opinion – and I hope we don’t have to find out!

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    Comment on Gas pains revisited (June 22nd, 2008 at 10:49)

    Dave great to see you back! Still having fun here at the blog.

    I agree, hope that scenario won’t be tested anytime soon!

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