21 responses to Do the Amish really work harder than the rest of us?
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    Naomi Wilson
    Comment on Do the Amish really work harder than the rest of us? (May 7th, 2015 at 08:27)

    This topic always gets me thinking. The Amish seem to have dodged a bullet in relying primarily on farms and other home based businesses for employment. I think a contemporary American lifestyle keeps you really busy, but limits productivity. My husband is a public elementary school teacher, and is away from home from 7AM to 7 or 7:30PM. He spends up to three hours sitting in traffic each day, and lots of extra time in mandatory meetings and doing the meaningless paperwork that is required more and more of public school teachers. He hardly ever has time to write lesson plans. (After eleven years of a horrible commute, we are moving closer to school and church next month. Yay!)

    I am looking forward to reading The Adventures of Tom Yoder. It sounds like something the whole family will enjoy!

    • Wow, rough commute Naomi. Glad for your family to be moving closer. Americans spend a ton of time in traffic. I just read that we spend over 5 billion hours/year in traffic, something like a work’s week worth of time per person. Guess that’s one big attraction of working at home.

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    Elva Bontrager
    Comment on Lazy is a bad word. (May 7th, 2015 at 12:24)

    Lazy is a bad word.

    The Amish have a respect for hard, physical work that borders upon a religion. Being known as lazy is a label that most likely can’t be shaken off, while being hard-working forgives quite a few faults. A man can be harsh and stern but if he is hard working in addition, he most likely will be well respected.

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    Kelley in the California High Desert
    Comment on Do the amish really work harder than the rest of us? (May 7th, 2015 at 12:57)

    Do the amish really work harder than the rest of us?

    I believe that while most Americans work hard, our lives are not as satisfying. The Amish are productive in a manner that shows immediate results and gratification. I think most Americans feel better about themselves after a day of hard physical work rather than sitting behind a desk or sitting in traffic. It is human nature to want to move and get something done. Our lives have changed so much with technology that most things are done for us. Depression, obesity and laziness are factors in our culture that I really believe are a product of our modern lifestyle. In the old days, people didn’t have time to be depressed or lazy! I think people need to learn from the Amish and start taking more responsibility for their own existence. Plant a garden, build a shed, take up canning or learn to quilt…(even mow your own lawn rather than pay someone to do it!) Do something that will actually make you feel like you’ve accomplished something tangible. It can do wonders, really.

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      Terry in Wisconsin
      Comment on Do the Amish really work harder than the rest of us? (May 9th, 2015 at 22:48)

      Kelley, Boy did you hit the head on the nail with how our lifestyle is doing us in! People today might have to “work hard” but is it “hard work”? So many people have everything they think they have to have, and still are not happy. Our old friend Ann Landers used to say, “The most important things in life are not things.” The Amish can lead a good life with way less than the English life!

      “I don’t have everything I want, but I have everything I need.”

      Safe in Christ, Terry

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    Bob the Quaker
    Comment on Do the Amish really work harder than the rest of us? (May 7th, 2015 at 15:26)

    Keep in mind, that in general, Amish do more physical labor than most of the rest of us. The majority of “English” use more brain power. Having said that, I am always amazed how smart my Amish friends are. Experience I guess, & handed down knowledge.
    Years ago, many Amish bought what was considered useless land relatively cheap from “English”, but within 5 years, this land was fully productive. They knew how to do this….

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    Comment on But what is work...? (May 8th, 2015 at 04:40)

    But what is work...?

    I am theoretically retired (by the traditional definition) and working “part time” in my own business. Some who know me well would say that I’m busier than I was before I retired.

    To them I say, “But I have trouble knowing when I am working and when I am playing.” That is, in a large part, because I thoroughly enjoy what I’m doing and see a fair amount of cross over.

    So I suspect a question about who works harder would need to consider how one defines work. The “English” tend to somewhat narrowly define and categorize things–we spend some time working, some time learning, and some time (usually not enough) playing.

    I suspect the Amish would have trouble with that; they are focused on a way of life that doesn’t necessarily make those distinctions. Who hasn’t seen a photo of Amish kids pulling a lawnmower with a bicycle or a horse? Are they working or playing?

    We “English” learn through college in preparation to work so we can retire. When you start to think outside those boxes, it becomes possible to have a “wholesome” approach that sees us always, regardless of age, learning, working and playing. I wouldn’t even say the Amish have figured out how to do that–they just never started seeing it any other way.

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    Juanita Cook
    Comment on Do the Amish really work harder than the rest of us? (May 8th, 2015 at 12:22)

    I believe the Amish work harder. They don’t have all the newest and modern equipment that make life easier for the English. Seems all we have to do is push a button or click something on and they actually do a lot of physical labor.

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    Bob the Quaker
    Comment on Do the Amish really work harder than the rest of us? (May 8th, 2015 at 13:20)

    So true Juanita….batteries went dead on our TV remote, and all the young visitors didn’t know what to do. One said “I remember years ago that my parents would go up to the TV & do something to change channels” :-)

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      Kelley in the California High Desert
      Comment on Do the Amish really work harder than the rest of us? (May 8th, 2015 at 17:21)

      That’s funny! I remember when my now 23 year old daughter was a toddler and we were visiting my husband’s parents and my father-in-law was annoyed that she would not leave the remote alone and wanted to play with it constantly. In exasperation he exclaimed, “Boy, when my kids were that age they knew the TV remote was off limits!” My husband laughed and said, “what remote? You never got one until after I moved out!”

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    Alice Mary
    Comment on Do the Amish really work harder than the rest of us? (May 8th, 2015 at 14:18)

    I agree it’s a good feeling to put forth physical effort to get something “done.” I did a lot more hard, physical labor when I was younger—and within the past 16 years or so, I’ve had numerous injuries and surgeries to repair (or partially repair) the damage I did to myself: 3 cervical spine surgeries (leaving me with one numb/weak hand–I need a typing stick to type with one finger on that hand, and a buttoner to button my clothes–, a knee replacement, and just last Sept., surgery to repair the 3 ligaments I completely tore away from the bone of my right shoulder—rotator cuff.That doesn’t count some “female” surgeries or other minor surgeries over the years. But I still like to do physical labor (when I still can), especially if it involves the outdoors–mainly, gardening. I enjoy working with Mother Nature in the background!

    That said, I have to put forth more “effort” to do things I took for granted 20 years ago–my body now has physical limitations I have to “work around”, if, indeed, I can manage them at all. Hard work is getting harder, but it’s also teaching me (and my family) invaluable lessons I might not otherwise have learned.

    One thing the Amish have that is a blessing—larger families that live close to one another. A couple dozen women cooking a meal & cleaning a house (as for worship service) is a lot easier work than if only one or two had to do it. Same with barn raising or quilting bees or anything else. Then there’s the built-in camaraderie of it all. I don’t know that the Amish work any harder, but they do work smarter, and probably enjoy it lots more than the English do!

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    Jim Cates
    Comment on Workin' for a Livin' (May 8th, 2015 at 17:10)

    Workin' for a Livin'

    The comments raise a really interesting point. Right now in my time zone, it’s Friday at 6 p.m. I am whipped, and the only “physical” work I have done so far this week was mow the lawn! In some way would I feel better, or more satisfied, or less stressed if I had been physically employed? On the other hand, I think of my conversation with the fellow who came to service my air conditioner at 8 a.m. on Wednesday. He was pleasant, efficient, and did a lot of physical labor crawling around my attic – and when he left at 9:15, shared that he didn’t know how he was going to get everything done they had scheduled for him that day. Interspersed in the comments is the lack of balance in English lives, but sad to say, I have seen that among some Amish as well. Seems to be a human trait to get caught up in working to the exclusion of living well.

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    Al in Ky
    Comment on Do the Amish really work harder than the rest of us? (May 10th, 2015 at 13:12)

    My comment is about Amish children and work. I know three Amish farm families very well and am on each of their farms several times each year. Many times when I stop by, the children and teens of the families are busy working inside the house or outside in farmyard or fields. I know this can be taken to the extreme and not allow children enough free time. But, having grown up on a small family farm doing much of the same types of work Amish children do, and now living in a city the past 40 years, it greatly concerns me that children in the city do not have enough meaningful work to do, which can also result in lots of problems.

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    Slightly-handled-Order-man
    Comment on Do the Amish really work harder than the rest of us? (May 10th, 2015 at 20:14)

    I am looking forward to Tom Yoder to be released.

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    John Lueders
    Comment on What's Motivating You To Work Hard (May 11th, 2015 at 13:54)

    What's Motivating You To Work Hard

    I was recently helping my Amish buddy get things in order for his moving sale. When his mind is set on things that need to be done, there’s no stopping him. The one difference I saw was the help he received from his friends. Without question, they are willing to drop their own work to help a friend. I like to think that I am in reasonably good shape but when those guys got motoring it was something I was not accustomed to. I think we all can work just as hard as the next guy, it just depends what the agenda js and who’s setting the example. Then it’s up to you as to how much or little you want to do.

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      Comment on Compartmentalizing work (May 12th, 2015 at 07:50)

      Compartmentalizing work

      Good points John. And to state the obvious there will be better/harder workers in any group including the Amish.

      Reading your comment another question that came to mind: do non-Amish compartmentalize their work more than non-Amish? The ultimate example would be the Amish farmer, who seems to have a day where work is intertwined with many other tasks and things that need doing can come up at any hour, eg waking up in the middle of the night to tend an animal or keep a greenhouse stove fire going. Amish who work 9-5 away from the home may have more clearly structured work/leisure periods of the day.

      On the other hand, for non-Amish technology has made it harder to compartmentalize work since it can always be taken home with the laptop, and the phone is usually on for work to intrude. Not to mention these devices are often mixed-use, used both for entertainment/leisure and work.

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    Comment on There is work, and then there is work... (May 17th, 2015 at 22:48)

    There is work, and then there is work...

    I’m playing catch-up on some past articles, and in order to make the most of my time I didn’t read all the replies. If I end up repeating/echoing the thoughts of others in this thread, my apologies for the duplication.

    My first response to this comparing Amish work vs. English work is highlight the need to distinguish between productive work and busy work. How much time do we (the English) lose as our work has us scurrying from place to place, but getting very little done? Or the meetings — or the meetings to determine when we will have meetings — that often prohibit us from doing that which is really our job? “Overhead” activity that demands so much of our time and attention is a far cry from productive labor, and it seems to me that the Amish, or at least the nature of many of their businesses, typically have a way to paring down so much of the fluff that is not really productive.

    Second, Amish work is typically connected with the idea of quality, and quality is typically understood to be the result of higher standards and the discipline to reach those.

    Third, and somewhat connected to the second, is that Amish quality is often achieved with a much more hands-on labor. I seriously doubt that the typical English employee running a machine at the furniture plant or jelly-canning facility will put in the amount of actual labor and personal interest as his Amish counterpart does in his family-run business. Similar number of hours spent on the job is by no ways a means of equating the amount of difficulty/hard-ness of the work/labor that one does during that hours.

    I do not mean to demean the work ethic of the English, nor to overly glamorize that of the Amish. But my point is that for all the points of attempted comparison that tries to equate the two, I feel that in the final analysis it’s still more of an apples-to-oranges comparison.

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    Jim Cates
    Comment on Apples to Oranges (May 18th, 2015 at 00:30)

    Apples to Oranges

    Don,

    Well-taken points. And yet I think of the Elkhart-LaGrange Amish working in the trailer factories, and wonder about the steadily blurring lines between the Amish world you describe and the one that is emerging.

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    becca
    Comment on Do the Amish really work harder than the rest of us? (May 21st, 2015 at 12:55)

    They do seem to work harder! I will say though that their children carry a HUGE amount of that work load. The girl at home and boys at outside jobs. In addition here where we’re from… The boys give entire paychecks from 16 or younger until they’re 21 to their parents. Wow..think about that! Three or four able body boys bringing in additional pay checks. The girls are helping with the household chores younger ones.

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      Mark – Holmes Co.
      Comment on Do the Amish really work harder than the rest of us? (May 21st, 2015 at 13:16)

      On giving paychecks to parents until coming of age at 21: There is surely some differences from family to family as well as group to group. Our children get a percentage as their spending money and we also cover all living expenses until 21. Over half of their paychecks go into a savings account so when they marry & leave home they will be provided with what is needed to start housekeeping on their own. Some of each of our children’s paychecks goes towards household expenses, so you could call it “rent.” Again, we cover all their expenses until 21 including medical costs, clothing, personal needs (deodorant, toothpaste, batteries, stamps, etc.)
      Our goal is to set up a girl with the basics: fridge, stove, dining room table, chairs, bedroom suite, couch, sewing machine, cookware, etc.) out of that fund. For a boy, a hose, buggy, harness, desk, basic tools, lawn care stuff, etc) and for all children quilts, canned goods & meat for the freezer, etc.

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