23 responses to Cooking out for the Fourth?
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    Garrett Kozlowski
    Comment on I would love to be at a cook out with the Amish (July 4th, 2014 at 07:29)

    I would love to be at a cook out with the Amish

    I would love to be at a cook-out with the Amish, Me being a guy who loves cook-outs any time, can only imagine what tasty food would be served. I was invited one year for my birthday, to eat dinner at my friends who happen to be Amish, and I can honestly say the food was exceptionally good, so with that being said, I wonder what more delicious food would be there? Maybe if I’m lucky,I will be invited to one, oh I dream of that day.
    God Bless,to everyone.

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    Margaret
    Comment on Cooking out for the Fourth? (July 4th, 2014 at 07:52)

    My first thought when I saw the picture was, “If you can’t take the heat, get the stove out of the kitchen.” :)

    Have a great 4th everyone…be safe!

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    Kathy Rowe
    Comment on Cooking out for the Fourth? (July 4th, 2014 at 08:03)

    I am going to be lucky enough to be at a cookout with some Amish friends next week when I go to Ohio. Very nice folks. Met them a few years back and have become friends with them and visit them each time I make the trip up there. Love that area!

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    Carolyn G.
    Comment on Cooking out for the Fourth? (July 4th, 2014 at 08:15)

    Home, home on the range !

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    Comment on Love the post... (July 4th, 2014 at 08:44)

    Love the post...

    ….and a happy 4th to everyone!

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    Alice Mary
    Comment on Good ones! (July 4th, 2014 at 11:23)

    Good ones!

    Margaret, Carolyn, your “captions” are spot-on! I’m smilin’ as I type this!

    Garrett, maybe we can tag along :) with Kathy to her friends’ house in Ohio for some tasty Amish cuisine! How fortunate for you both to have Amish friends to dine with now and then!

    I love the idea of “summer kitchens”. I loved visiting summer kitchens in Williamsburg and other “historic” American settlements in different states. Even growing up in Chicago, we never had central air–only one window AC, and when that gave out, we spent most of our time in our knotty-pine remodeled basement where it was always several degrees cooler.

    I wish more “modern” homes had ample porches, like the one here, for enjoying more time “outdoors”, yet in the shade. Or for cooking purposes (I wonder who thought to move the stove out there? The cook, or her husband? Of course, I’m just assuming the cook is the lady of this Amish household).

    Thanks so much for the photo, Shipshewanaindiana!

    And thanks, Erik, for the whole posting on this, our 238th birthday as a nation. A safe and Happy Independence Day to all!

    Alice Mary

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      Comment on Cooking out for the Fourth? (July 5th, 2014 at 20:06)

      I had a pretty quiet Independence Day. The most exciting part in terms of celebration was when I went out for a 9:30 pm jog and a group of kids were setting off a sparkler-type firework in the street. Pretty wild stuff :)

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        B & L
        Comment on Wondering about Amish Settlements in Nebraska (July 6th, 2014 at 15:44)

        Wondering about Amish Settlements in Nebraska

        We are hoping to visit an Amish settlement next week in Pawnee City, Nebraska and have heard there may be a few smaller Amish settlements in the areas of Orchard, Ewing, and Verdigre, Nebraska, but cannot find any information on whether these still exist. Does anyone know if there are any Amish still in this Northern part of the state of Nebraska?

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          Comment on Nebraska (state) Amish resources (July 6th, 2014 at 20:11)

          Nebraska (state) Amish resources

          Yes, there are 3 settlements in northern Nebraska, 4 total in the state. This link will give you a list and locations: http://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/1811/57700/JAPAS_Donnermeyer_Luthy_vol1-issue2_pp107-129.pdf?sequence=1

          Here’s our guide for that state, these were compiled in 2010 and due for an update, so there are more Amish locations than discussed here, but may be useful: http://amishamerica.com/amish-nebraska/

          Two other posts on Nebraska:

          http://amishamerica.com/amish-communities-nebraska/
          http://amishamerica.com/amish-verdigre-nebraska/

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            B & L
            Comment on Cooking out for the Fourth? (July 6th, 2014 at 20:37)

            Thank you for the quick reply, Erik! Some of the information/links you provided I had seen, but some was new and helpful.

            Thank you again!

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              Tom Geist
              Comment on Cooking out for the Fourth? (July 6th, 2014 at 23:41)

              Hi B&L,

              I apologize if I repeat things you already know.

              I am in Nebraska and have been to most of the places you seek. Pawnee City is roughly 240 miles from the Orchard/Verdigre area. Unless your heart is set on going to those specific places I would head for just the one closest to you. “If” that would be the Northern Amish in Orchard/Verdigre I understand there is a new 3 family settlement in Center Nebraska… but have not been there. I would also consider hitting the only Amish settlement in Sound Dakota, in Tripp which is about an hour drive above the Orchard area.

              If I can be of any help let me know.

              Tom Geist
              LincNebr@hotmail.com

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    Wondercat
    Comment on Group barbecue equipment (July 4th, 2014 at 12:57)

    Group barbecue equipment

    Don’t some Lancaster church districts have mega-grills, the sort of thing on which you can sizzle a couple of dozen half-broilers at a time, that members can borrow when there’s a family reunion? Maybe not on the Glorious Fourth, but…

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      Linda
      Comment on Cooking out for the Fourth? (July 6th, 2014 at 15:11)

      People used to go out to the bathroom, and in to eat. Now they go out to eat, and in to the bathroom!

      Meadow Creek Barbecue of New Holland, PA, makes BBQ grills. Their large grills are used at fundraisers and benefit auctions.

      http://meadowcreekbarbecue.com/

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    andrea
    Comment on Amish in Colorado (July 4th, 2014 at 17:56)

    Amish in Colorado

    I understand there is a colony of Amish in Southern Colorado. Do they have little shops there and places to visit? I want very much to meet them. I’m fascinated by languages and while they call their language “Dutch” it sounds more like “Deutsch”.

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      Comment on Southern Colorado Amish presence (July 5th, 2014 at 20:03)

      Southern Colorado Amish presence

      Andrea there are actually 4 communities in southern Colorado. None of them are very large but there are some businesses. You can actually see one of the communities being scouted in the PBS film “The Amish”. There is footage of Amish visiting and checking out some land for a potential community.

      If you like you can read more on them here: http://amishamerica.com/colorado-amish/#

      Also here is a Denver Post article from a few years ago: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15782765

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    Comment on Cooking out for the Fourth? (July 5th, 2014 at 02:57)

    I think of old methods in Sweden to cope with the heat in summer. In some houses they would have a cooking stove on the second floor as well and cook on that in summer to keep the kitchen which was the main room for more or less everything as cool as possible. Some would clean out the barn and live in the barn for summer while the animals lived in simple summer shelters outside. If they had two buildings on the property (for example one house for the family and one for the grand parents) they would all move in to one house and use the other for cooking. In northern Sweden “baking-cottages” are common, they are a small house with a big oven used mainly for baking. If these houses also had a cooking stove they were often also used for food in summer. The reason for not having the oven in the house was fire, a baking oven should be heated for quite a long time and with a lot of wood and it was considered a bigger fire hazard than just having fire for heating and cooking. Also, you solved the problem of the house being too hot from the heat of the oven as well.

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      OldKat
      Comment on Interesting post (July 5th, 2014 at 17:04)

      Interesting post

      Elin, it is interesting that you posted this. That tradition existed in Texas up until about 100 years ago or so. The earliest houses were generally a one of two room cabin, but typically with no kitchen. It was in a self-contained building away from the house to keep the house cool and lessen the chance of a total loss because of fire.

      When the family’s fortunes increased they would add a mirror image cabin joined by a porch that ran right down the middle of the two halves, often with a new roof that covered everything. The house was then called a “dog trot” house for the breezeway down the middle. The kitchen, however, remained where it was.

      If we are able to swing it, we plan to build our retirement home that way; including the detached kitchen. We plan to have a lanai / outdoor kitchen attached to it, but really it will be more for recreational cooking than to keep the kitchen cool. Sometimes the old ideas are still the best ideas …

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    Terry Berger
    Comment on An old custom (July 7th, 2014 at 14:32)

    An old custom

    Erik,
    I will tell you that this is actually a very old idea. It was very common in the 19th century to have one cookstove on a farm which was moved back and forth between the main house and the summer kitchen. The summer kitchen really being intended to keep the main house cooler in the summer, plus the bigger meals at harvest could be prepared without tracking a lot of extra dirt into the main house. My folks often talked about the “hoch koche” or ‘big cooking’ such as canning or butchering that also took place in the summer kitchens.

    Terry

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      Comment on Summer kitchen definition (July 7th, 2014 at 16:06)

      Summer kitchen definition

      I think the summer kitchen concept is a good, even necessary idea in days before mechanical cooling. But aren’t summer kitchens usually separate structures? Or would we call something like this a summer kitchen, even though it appears improvised on the porch?

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    Terry Berger
    Comment on In answer to Andrea's comment (July 7th, 2014 at 14:38)

    In answer to Andrea's comment

    Andrea,
    The English people called us Dutch. We call ourselves and our language Deitsch which is dialect for Deutsch.

    Terry

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    Terry Berger
    Comment on A few more thoughts (July 8th, 2014 at 07:35)

    A few more thoughts

    Erik and readers,
    I can tell that in my region of Pennsylvania, the summer kitchen was a separate building especially on farmsteads that were built in the eighteenth century. Sometimes they were also the original settler’s cottage that was transformed into a summer kitchen when the main house was completed. The newer farmsteads still had a detached summer kitchen that was often joined to the back of the house by a breezeway or porch. My farmhouse is actually late nineteenth century and at that point the summer kitchen was attached to the house but closed off by a doorway. The concept was still the same. Many times the summer kitchens have been converted to a wash house/laundry house. I also know of some that were converted to canning kitchens, again a vaariation on a theme. In the southern states the kitchens were also detached, however, I’ve been told that was more to protect the main house in the event of a kitchen fire.

    Terry

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      Comment on Cooking out for the Fourth? (July 8th, 2014 at 09:48)

      Interesting Terry. I believe one of my friends in Lancaster actually had his old summer kitchen converted to a small living quarters. It’s not there any longer however, had to go when they expanded the home.

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