19 responses to Buggy lanes in Daviess County
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    Buggy lanes in Daviess County (July 30th, 2012 at 06:07)

    Here in Lebanon county we dont have any real designated lanes for our Amish buggies that I’m aware of, and Erik I’m sure you have traveled on route 501 which is somewhat busy with trucks and cars slicing right through the heart of our Amish settlement. So if I were going to place a shoulder for buggies here that’s one place I would start, and maybe doing part of 422 as well. But I’m glad for those folks in Indiana and I hope that it makes buggy travel that much safer for those Amish in that area. Richard. www.Amishstories.net

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    Valerie
    Glad for them- (July 30th, 2012 at 06:37)

    Glad for them-

    If that is a busy area, I’m really happy for the Amish. In Holmes County OH they have some buggy lanes and it seems to make it so much nicer for the Amish to not feel the pressure of a line of cars behind them, as on the roads without the lanes. I have found them to be such considerate people on the roads, (I always hate to make them feel pressured when I’m behind them) I’m sure this makes their getting out and about that much more pleasant and safe.
    Coming from CA where bike lanes are everywhere, the Amish could use them for both their bikes and buggies.

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    Robin Wyatt
    Buggy Lanes (July 30th, 2012 at 06:57)

    Buggy Lanes

    I think lanes for buggies is a great idea. They should have them all over. They have a special lane for BICYCLES,so why not other forms of transportation. It would most likely cut down on vehical and buggy accidents. And for the funding, shoot do a fund rasier or something. City,County,State, and those that would use the lanes,ALL could and should pitch in to help finance and do the work. Yes it would cost a fair amount of money and time, but in the long run think how many lives it would save over time.

    Robin

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    Buggy Lanes (July 30th, 2012 at 08:24)

    Buggy Lanes

    Buchanon County in Iowa is in the process of adding buggy lanes to Amish Blvd., near Hazleton, the main highway thru the Amish area.

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    Lattice
    Buggy lanes in Daviess County (July 30th, 2012 at 08:54)

    I cannot recall whether the Amish pay road taxes like the “wheel tax,” or whatever. If not, some might surely complain that it is unfair for the buggies to get a lane if their taxes do not fund road maintenance, however, I believe that this is as much a benefit to the automobile drives as the buggy drivers. Do the Amish pay the taxes that fund roads?

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      OldKat
      That is a good question (July 31st, 2012 at 00:37)

      That is a good question

      Lattice – The answer probably varies from state to state. I have no idea what Indiana does, but in my state much of the money for county roads comes from ad valorem (property)taxes.

      Now, TxDot will pitch in with some funding and the road will be built either by them or under their supervision and to their specs, but the bulk of the funding will either be ad valorem or “County Road and Bridge” taxes which are also paid when you pay your property taxes. Additional local funding can come from sales taxes. If the roads in Indiana are funded in a similar fashion, then I’d say the Amish are already paying at least part of the ticket so why shouldn’t there be lanes dedicated to their use?

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    LeeAnn
    Buggy lanes in Daviess County (July 30th, 2012 at 09:01)

    There are buggy lanes in MN for the Amish. I saw them while back that way a few years ago.

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    Tom in KY
    Buggy lanes in Daviess County (July 30th, 2012 at 09:42)

    The Daviess County settlement is one of my favorite settlements to visit. Certainly a bit different than many of the other settlements.

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    ramblinjodie
    Buggy lanes in Daviess County (July 30th, 2012 at 09:45)

    Several years ago in Seymour, MO, they tried a buggy lane down the middle of highway 60. I’m not sure but don’t think it is used anymore. I still see buggies on the shoulder.ramblinjodie

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    Marilyn from NY
    Buggy lanes in Daviess County (July 30th, 2012 at 09:54)

    I live in Upstate New York and we have bicycle lanes on several roads and highways in our state. I think it would be a great idea for the Amish lane. If they could widen the bicyle lane or make them wider when they put more in-it would be a great Amish and bicycle lane.

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    Robin Wyatt
    road taxes, (July 30th, 2012 at 10:23)

    road taxes,

    Lattice, I understand what you are saying, but in alot of states there are bicycle lanes and as far as I know bicycliest don’t pay taxes for there lane. And if the Amish are willing to help build and do some of the up keep then that should be enough.

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    Alice Mary
    Center lane danger? (July 30th, 2012 at 10:40)

    Center lane danger?

    Wow! I can’t imagine a viable buggy lane down the center of a road as described by ramblinjodie. I would think it would be difficult enough to keep a horse calm enough to use a road where cars pass by on ONE side,let alone two. Wouldn’t it freak them out, seeing “oncoming” traffic in one lane, and having cars constantly passing on the other side as well? Sounds like a really bad idea (I’ll bet the Amish didn’t come up with it!)

    As others here have said, if we have bike lanes, why not buggy lanes, both for safety’s sake. I’m sure there could be compromise for funding. It’s not like this is something that needs to be done nation-wide, only in “Amish country” where horse and buggy traffic is common.

    Alice Mary

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      ramblinjodie
      Buggy lanes in Daviess County (July 30th, 2012 at 12:45)

      Highway 60 is a four lane road. So yes, the buggies in the middle. I don’t think it lasted very long. At times MODOT has strange ideas.
      On another note, I’m going to Ethridge TN in Aug. Can someone recommend best place to shop and see.
      Thank you
      jodie

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    Don Curtis
    My son Mark and driving buggies (July 30th, 2012 at 12:40)

    My son Mark and driving buggies

    I read this post to my son, Mark, who is Amish. As far as the Amish paying for the roads he said it differs by state. In Indiana, for example, the Amish have to purchase a license to drive a buggy and have a license plate on the buggy. In Ohio there is no mandatory license. However, Mark said that in his community the church collects twenty-five dollars per buggy from each family in the community, yearly, and this money is sent voluntarily to the Logan County Engineer’s Office.
    Mark said that driving a buggy on the roads can be hair-raising. The scariest for Mark, he says, is driving on US 68 which runs north and south and splits the community in half. It is a busy road with a lot of semi-truck traffic. He said he has had trucks pass him on this two-lane road with traffic coming head on. The trucks try to squeeze past him and the oncoming traffic and roar by just inches away from the buggy. I don’t like riding in a buggy, anyway, but that would really do it for me.
    Mark said that some thoughtless drivers will drive past until they get up to the horse’s head and then lay on the horn to try and scare the horse.
    I’m just used to driving my car and puttinig it on cruise control. Mark said you can’t really relax your vigilance driving a horse and buggy. He said a horse can be startled by all kinds of things. Once they get used to going a certain road, they are uneasy if anything is different or changed about the road. A bag of trash left by the side of the road can startle them. A white plastic bag caught in a bush and flapping in the breeze. A dog, cat, rabbit, or deer suddenly runningn out in the road can be scary for a horse. Mark said, one time he was driving his horse and buggy and they came upon a field which had just had hay made and baled up into the large round hay bales. The horse saw these huge round bales and most of thought they were some kind of monsters out to attack and eat him. Little did he know that those monsters were more likely to be supper for him!

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      Lattice
      Buggy lanes in Daviess County (July 30th, 2012 at 13:26)

      Hi, Don. I think that the voluntary collection in Mark’s community is a great example and witness to others. Thanks for telling us about that.

      I don’t like riding in a buggy either. It scares me so much when cars come by. I never really trusted horses that much, and for no good reason, as I haven’t any bad experiences to recount. You can just tell that they get nervous at times. And they’re oh, so big.

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      OldKat
      Not really thoughtless. (July 31st, 2012 at 00:08)

      Not really thoughtless.

      “Mark said that some thoughtless drivers will drive past until they get up to the horse’s head and then lay on the horn to try and scare the horse”. Don, people like that are not being thoughtless … thoughtless would be if they did something without thinking that caused Mark’s horse to shy. What he is describing is an INTENTIONAL act to TRY to get the horse to shy.

      Mark is probably too polite to say this, but I am not. Those people are just being total jerks and there is really no other way for me to see it. I have had them do the exact same thing to me, which is why I don’t take my team out on the road any more than I have to.

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    Margaret
    Buggy lanes in Daviess County (July 30th, 2012 at 14:38)

    I agree with Robin — if they put in bike lanes, they can put in buggy lanes. They need them around Hutchinson, KS, too. There have been so many terrible buggy accidents along “Yoder Road” over the years.

    The lanes make it easier on all traffic that uses the roads, so one group shouldn’t have to be the ones paying for it. It should just be our tax dollars at work — like any other road improvement.

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    Al in Ky.
    Buggy lanes in Daviess County (July 31st, 2012 at 06:55)

    Thanks for the information. I’m going to the Amish produce
    auction tomorrow on CR 900 E. in Daviess County and will ask
    some of my Amish friends what they think about it. It certainly
    is a busy road — especially on Friday nights when Dinky’s Auction
    is going on. There are always dozens of buggies at Dinky’s and
    most go home after dark, so I think buggy lanes would be especially welcomed then.

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    Teresa B.
    Buggy lanes in Daviess County (July 31st, 2012 at 10:12)

    I am wondering how the shared buggy-bicycle lane works out for the bicyclist? Since they (bicyclists) would have to manuever around horse droppings, it certainly could impair their steering ability and ultimate enjoyment of the ride. Any thoughts?

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