21 responses to Amish Farm Children May Help Solve Asthma Puzzle
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    Comment on Lots of Things Missing (August 5th, 2016 at 12:30)

    Lots of Things Missing

    Having cows around is one thing. But how about playing outside ALL DAY LONG, in summer verses sitting indoors watching the tube or playing video games.

    How about riding in pony carts? Making the dirt your playground?

    Amish kids do lots of things that other kids do not. Cows is just a portion of the larger picture.

    My two cents.

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      Muckraker
      Comment on Amish Farm Children May Help Solve Asthma Puzzle (August 8th, 2016 at 17:01)

      Hutterite children do those things too and don’t sit inside all day watching TV or playing video games – at least not more than Amish children do.

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    Cyndi
    Comment on Two very different states might produce two very different results! (August 5th, 2016 at 12:56)

    Two very different states might produce two very different results!

    While many of the findings may very well be accurate, I have to wonder if the same results would have be seen if they actually tested in the same area (or at the very least, the same state). Weather conditions and what is grown and mechanically produced are VERY different in both states.

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    Comment on I'll tell you why it works, it's simple really... (August 5th, 2016 at 13:21)

    I'll tell you why it works, it's simple really...

    The Amish drink un pasteurized Milk, naturally an Asthma deterrent, also, the lifestyle exposes many Amish children to “Many” bugs that our “Normal” society can’t fight due to over vaccination. As a teenager that left the Amish for Hollywood many years ago, I’m healthier than many of my peers and counter parts here in Hollywood. It’s a fact guy’s.

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      Muckraker
      Comment on Amish Farm Children May Help Solve Asthma Puzzle (August 8th, 2016 at 17:02)

      Hutterites (at least ones I’ve been around) drink raw milk too. And lots of people where I live drink raw milk but have normal asthma type problems.

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    Comment on Interesting! (August 5th, 2016 at 13:45)

    Interesting!

    It’s so amazing when scientists come across new answers to common questions? I wonder what the difference between Amish and English dust is???

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    Judith
    Comment on Genetics (August 5th, 2016 at 22:40)

    Genetics

    I think that exposure to certain organisms could boost immunity – but I wonder if they studied the genes involved in contracting asthma (which has been proven to genetically run in families) – this makes me think that the genetics of the Amish missed that one ancestor from Moravia who had that asthma gene. The Hutterites must be genetically related to that Moravian ancestor.

    Did they study the Amish who live on farms and the Amish who did not? Was there any difference?

    So to say it all boils down to living on a farm would be empirically incorrect since there are genetic factors involved in developing asthma.

    I sometimes wonder about these studies. But interesting findings nonetheless.

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      Muckraker
      Comment on Amish Farm Children May Help Solve Asthma Puzzle (August 8th, 2016 at 17:04)

      Lots of ethnic groups develop asthma and Hutterited and Amish are particularly closely related anyway. Descendants of Amish who don’t live an Amish lifestyle get asthma at more typical rates. Read the study – it’s not a genetic thing and they took measures to prove that

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    Dan H.
    Comment on Amish Farm Children May Help Solve Asthma Puzzle (August 6th, 2016 at 01:54)

    @ David Arment:

    “But how about playing outside ALL DAY LONG, in summer verses sitting indoors watching the tube or playing video games.

    How about riding in pony carts? Making the dirt your playground?”

    I recently visited both Amish and Hutterite communities in the US for about two month. Both Amissh and Hutterite children play ouside all day long, very often barefoot, and both make the dirt their playground.

    This to me seem not to be the difference.

    By the way, in Soutn Dakota, Minnesota and Missouri there are both Hutterite and Amish settlements, not so far from each other. For a new study this might be better.

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    Dan H.
    Comment on Amish Farm Children May Help Solve Asthma Puzzle (August 6th, 2016 at 02:00)

    At Elmendorf Hutterite Colony there are some families with their children of Amish background, that is Amish families, who joined the Hutterites.

    These children would be perfect to see if it is the Hutterite environment of modern agriculture or the Amish genetic heritage, that makes the difference.

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    Dan H.
    Comment on Amish Farm Children May Help Solve Asthma Puzzle (August 6th, 2016 at 02:01)

    Elmendorf Hutterite Colony is also called Elmendorf Christian Community.

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    Debbie H
    Comment on Germs (August 6th, 2016 at 08:34)

    Germs

    My husband said for years that we over sterilize our environment. He grew up on a small farm in Kentucky, no running water or indoor plumbing. He never wore shoes in the summer or worried about germs in the creek when swimming. He was never sick the whole time I knew him. I believe that children today do not get a chance to build immunity. Even the CDC has said we over use antibiotics.

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      Muckraker
      Comment on Amish Farm Children May Help Solve Asthma Puzzle (August 8th, 2016 at 17:05)

      The whole point of this is that Hutterites do all that stuff too (being barefoot, playing outside) – they are trying to find what the difference actually is.

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    Laura
    Comment on Outdoor exposure (August 6th, 2016 at 13:19)

    Outdoor exposure

    I spent the first four years of my life in India, where I was even allowed as a toddler to play in mud puddles and regularly played outdoors. Then when my family returned to the US, I spent my childhood outdoors as well, plus we did a lot of camping through the Rockies. I’ve always been very healthy, and I have long credited my childhood exposure to such a variety of germs with my health.

    Interestingly, when I was born, the hospital in India insisted I stay in the room with my mother to avoid exposure to germs I couldn’t handle. That was probably the only time in my childhood that I was protected from that exposure!

    I suspect that, like my childhood exposed to everything that came down the pike, Amish children also benefit from their non-overly-sterilized environment. What I find intriguing is that Hutterite children don’t have the same benefit. There must be some factor at work that hasn’t yet been accounted for.

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    Judith
    Comment on Genetics (August 6th, 2016 at 16:31)

    Genetics

    There was an article about the 150 different genetic-caused diseases that the Amish people are, unfortunately, prone to in the Washington Post, here’s the link…

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/pennsylvania-clinic-treats-genetic-disorders-in-amish-and-mennonite-people/2014/10/20/941b4e34-53bc-11e4-809b-8cc0a295c773_story.html

    Asthma is not one of them. And I think for researchers, that information couple with the information in this study above, should show that – regardless of growing up on a farm or not, asthma runs in families, in generations. Perhaps that gene is switched on due to an environmental presence. But to purposely expose children to bacteria seems a bit reckless at best.

    No doubt, exposure to certain “life” on this planet, viral or bacterial does, in fact, cause immunity. Hence the vaccine. But one must be so careful about the quantity, whether the virus is dead or alive, etc. etc..

    I’m sure these researchers know this. And are probably turning their sites on the genetic component of this disease which is so prevalent in our society today.

    Just like the Amish are susceptible to these 150 diseases – they are conversely immune, no doubt, to just as many, if not more other diseases – all because they have been intermarrying for centuries. It presents a sad problem for the Amish, as a People. I hope that someday, some Amish might acquire mild cases of asthma (hear me out) because that will mean that they will then have immunity genetically against those 150 other diseases that they now suffer from tremendously.

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      Muckraker
      Comment on Amish Farm Children May Help Solve Asthma Puzzle (August 8th, 2016 at 17:07)

      I’m not sure where you get the idea asthma is genetic (it isn’t) but many descendants of Amish have asthma at normal rates. And if Amish start getting asthma that doesn’t cure all the other genetically based diseases they are prone to…

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        Judith
        Comment on Asthma is genetically related. (August 8th, 2016 at 19:19)

        Asthma is genetically related.

        Hi Muckraker – I got my information regarding the genetic relation to asthma from the World Health Organization (WHO). The WHO has a PDF regarding exactly the genetic component coupled with rural living. Here it is:

        http://www.who.int/genomics/about/Asthma.pdf

        There are also other studies if you google asthma and genome, or asthma and genetics. It is well known that asthma hails from certain regions of Europe from a genetic standpoint.

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    Comment on HEALTHY FARM CHILDREN (August 8th, 2016 at 19:32)

    HEALTHY FARM CHILDREN

    Good for all you Amish parents and children! I have a deep love and respect for your lifestyle.
    Some alternative physicians claim to have put asthma on the run with adequate hydration. And I believe the agrarian lifestyle leads to Biblical health:
    1. Grow up on a farm–whether Amish or ‘other’–with all the hair dander, and yes, even some germs wafting from the horse and cow lot. We farm children were clean, but not sterile… and indeed, the raw milk is a huge plus. “If G-d made it for food and man hasn’t messed with it,” It’s on my bill of fare! (…Borrowed from my mentors of 40 plus years if wellness study. Desperately ill in 1974 – that philosophy has made me well, and kept me so, at 83 years of age!)
    2. Farm life lends itself to good use of the body our Father designed… Digging postholes, seed-time and harvest, and working a team beat man-made exercise machines in my book!
    3. With a farm lifestyle, our constant companion is the water jug… we must drink enough water to keep all our “filter systems” working. Dr. Fereydoon Batmanghelidj says in “The Water Cure,”: “Water is the basis of all life and that includes your body. Your muscles that move your body are 75% water; your blood that transport nutrients is 82% water; your lungs that provide your oxygen are 90% water; your brain that is the control center of your body is 76% water; even your bones are 25% water….Our health is truly dependent on the quality and quantity of the water we drink…”
    My Rule of Thumb, is take half my body weight and drink that many ounces of (filtered) water I need daily for maintenance.
    Blessings and Shalom, Betty

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    Suzanne
    Comment on What about vaccinations (August 23rd, 2016 at 17:02)

    What about vaccinations

    Vaccinations are not routinely adopted in the Amish community are they? I believe childhood vaccination is a culprit in this disease…. Same with the extremely low autism rates ( is there any at all?) in these communities. So wouldn’t that explain the lack of asthma? Does anyone know if that has been studied?

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      Emerald Appleby, CD(DONA), LCCE
      Comment on No studies support that (August 24th, 2016 at 12:09)

      No studies support that

      There are no well done peer reviewed studies to support the belief that vaccines cause asthma. Be very careful when reading opion pieces on line, and beware of bad research. No peer reviewed research, that has proven its results by third party researchers, says that asthma is cause by vaccines.

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    Lisa
    Comment on healthy living (November 15th, 2016 at 14:19)

    healthy living

    It is not just the genetics that contribute, nor is it exposure to germs at an early age. It is also the non GMO food sources and natural / non sterilized water that effects the natural immunity development. You can’t pick just one thing, it is the combination of elements that affect the level of immunity.

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