13 responses to 5 (Mid-Decade) Amish Population Facts That Might Surprise You
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    jan
    Comment on Michigan (February 27th, 2017 at 11:51)

    Michigan

    My friend in Wisconsin says they’re considering moving to Michigan where several members of their community have gone. She’s originally from Indiana. It’s interesting and a little surprising to see how much movement there is among the Amish. She did say the older, more established members of the community disapprove of the ones leaving, seemingly for no reason other than the idea that any change is necessarily bad. It actually reminds me of rural English folk who cluck their tongues at the younger generations who look to move to areas with more opportunities for themselves, assuming they think they’re “too good” for the town they grew up in, even though it’s not about that at all for the young people. It’s funny because that’s exactly what I faced a couple months ago when I announced my decision to move to another state. I guess those attitudes are pretty universal across cultures.

    • Interesting observation Jan. Yes I don’t know the situation with the community you mention but the Amish move for different reasons, sometimes economic, sometimes to find a smaller, less crowded community, sometimes because they have concerns over the youth behavior (more common in larger communities). Some would be more sensitive to the pace of change than others, and moving to a more conservative community could be a solution in that case. It would be hard to leave family behind but if the perceived threat/benefit is great enough, it can be enough to motivate a move.

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      Comment on 5 (Mid-Decade) Amish Population Facts That Might Surprise You (February 28th, 2017 at 10:13)

      Plain ol’ land prices are often the reason. At $20,000/acre in the Holmes County main settlement area, young folks are keen to look beyond the township they grew up in for cheaper land.

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    Don Wilkin
    Comment on How Long Can This Go On? (February 27th, 2017 at 12:10)

    How Long Can This Go On?

    Demographers and ecologists are justified in looking at the Amish doubling rate with horror. The Human global ecological footprint is now on the order of 1.5 Earths-worth of ecosystem services per year, which services are actually depleting while the population continues increasing. We’re draining our God-given global resource bank account. We have already overshot Earth’s human carrying capacity by half and are extinguishing species, soil fertility, groundwater, and mineral resources, our primary sources of material well-being, far faster than they can be replaced.

    Yet, I would argue, that a growing influence of Amish culture might be the best thing that has happened to the human species, if they decide to get their reproduction in balance with our limited supply of God-given resources. God gave us a finite world. He expects us to husband it, to manage it sustainably, not to consume it as fast as humanly possible. Unlimited growth is not in the cards for anyone or anything. Humans are no exception. Still, I argue, with the exception of their attitude toward reproduction, the Amish culture may be precisely what is needed to save the world for generations of humans to come.

    The human species is the most materially successful creature ever to have existed. In this case, material success is defined as control over one’s life circumstances, most particularly natural resources. This has been accomplished primarily through social communities that practice cooperation, sharing, caring, loving, and forgiving one another. It has also required us to control our reproduction so we don’t greedily abuse our resources, which, it should be obvious, is one of the most important ways we abuse one another. Greedily abusing community resources counters all the good that our social communities can do. The overwhelming majority of the spread of Amish communities is the result of running short of local resources. Eventually there won’t be anywhere else to go.

    If the human species could work toward becoming a single global community, caring, sharing, cooperating, helping, and forgiving, which are Amish values to the core, we would only need to take care we don’t over-reproduce and don’t over-use our God-given resources. That is a world that would be much more uplifting and nurturing to live and worship in.

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      Comment on 5 (Mid-Decade) Amish Population Facts That Might Surprise You (February 28th, 2017 at 05:36)

      European nations and Japan are aging out and not reproducing themselves and the US is on the same trajectory. Abortion has claimed the lives of one billion children in the past 100 years. I hardly think we are in danger of depleting resources. We are in danger of losing whole populations. Yes we should be stewards of this earth but we should also be raising families which too many people are not. I don’t think the Amish are a threat to over population. We could learn from their love of children and community.

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      Comment on Don't worry ... (February 28th, 2017 at 09:06)

      Don't worry ...

      We are a long ways from using up our resources. The US government has paid farmers for many decades not to plant some of their ground. In both Ohio and Pennsylvania, unused farming land is being grown up and turning back into woodlands because profitability is too low. I can show you aerial photos from the early 1900s to prove that. Ohio was only 10% wooded in 1900, now it is somewhere between 30% and 40% wooded.
      Having lived in South America, I saw the exact same thing happening: land being abandoned because of low profitability, with people hording into cities to find a good-paying job.
      The main thing that hinders everyone on earth from having plenty of food and shelter is a word that starts with a “P” … politics, along with plain old self-centeredness.
      I would personally believe the world could easily support a 10X greater population if we would all love one another.
      Now, to do my little part …

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        Don Wilkin
        Comment on Taking Care of God's Bounty (February 28th, 2017 at 11:29)

        Taking Care of God's Bounty

        The global human population is presently at 7.3 billion. Population experts are projecting about 10 billion by 2050. If that rate of increase holds through 2100, global population will be about 16 billion. But, the U.S. is growing rapidly as well. If the current U.S. rate of growth were experienced world-wide through year 2100, the world would still have over 12 billion people. If the world grew as fast as the Amish population, the population would be over 120 billion people by 2100!

        The world doesn’t have resources for 12 billion people, let alone 16 billion – or 120 billion. The most optimistic credible long-term global human carrying capacity is no more than 4 billion. Half of the world’s wildlife has disappeared in the last 40 years and the rate of loss is increasing rather than decreasing. Species extinctions are now on the order of 1,000 times the natural historic rate, and this includes critical pollinators. The world’s soils have lost around 2/3 of their organic matter, the stuff that makes soils naturally fertile and productive, in the last 200 years and that loss is increasing. The artificial petrochemicals we pump into soils to make up for the deficit will soon be scarce and/or prohibitively expensive. 63 of 89 industrial mineral resources were determined to be scarce in 2008, which means the price is only going to rise. Water reserves in 21 of the world’s 37 largest aquifers have declined since 2003, meaning we are using ground water faster than it is being replenished and it will eventually run out. With no reduction in greenhouse gas emissions, global temperature by 2100 could be as much as 30 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than today. A typical summer day of 120 degrees would not be survivable for most of us. It would be absolutely lethal for crops and livestock.

        God has already provided. Now, it’s up to us to take care of it. We can’t continue to grow our numbers when the numbers we already have are destroying the bounty He has provided.

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          Comment on 5 (Mid-Decade) Amish Population Facts That Might Surprise You (February 28th, 2017 at 11:48)

          I agree 100% that we are called to wisely manage our resources. But I don’t agree with the doomsday people that say we are about to run out of resources. Currently the US farms and grazes something close to 1 billion acres of land. Under close cultivation and tender care, only 1/3 to 1/2 an acre can feed one person, and some people say even less than that. So that means the US alone could provide food for 2-3 billion people, by itself. And that does not include the millions of acres that could be utilized (such as the median strips in between and along the edges of Interstate highways, and the millions of acres that are not being cultivated but could be).
          Within a couple miles circle of our house here in Coshocton County, Ohio, are hundreds of acres (likely a thousand or even two, havent counted it all) that are just being mowed off every year and used for deer hunting. Killing 25 bucks a year off of a few thousand acres of land is hardly considered using the land for all its potential.
          :-)

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      Paul S. Lam
      Comment on Don Wilkin (March 4th, 2017 at 16:13)

      Don Wilkin

      ……..TAKE “MONEY” AND “RELIGION” OUT OF THE EQUATION AND THE WORLD WILL BE GREAT AS THE ALMIGHTY WANT IT TO BE !

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    Comment on 5 (Mid-Decade) Amish Population Facts That Might Surprise You (February 27th, 2017 at 12:21)

    Does anyone know the Number of Old Order Amish, Old Order Mennonite, Mennonite (etc) Farms in America – Canada. The USDA doesn’t seem to know . Many Thanks PJ

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    RC
    Comment on 5 (Mid-Decade) Amish Population Facts That Might Surprise You (February 27th, 2017 at 16:38)

    Does anyone know where in New Brunswick the new settlement is? All I’ve been able to find online is a couple of mentions of the Maine settlement of Fort Fairfield expanding across the border, but I’m not sure if that would be counted as a settlement within New Brunswick or not.

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      Comment on Amish in New Brunswick (February 28th, 2017 at 09:59)

      Amish in New Brunswick

      RC, I haven’t been able to find mention of Amish beyond this area across the border from Fort Fairfield, ME. The link below names a community in the area of Carlingford, which would be across the border from Fort Fairfield.

      I assume this is the New Brunswick presence, though if someone knows otherwise, would be glad to hear about it. The information at this link discusses that presence briefly: http://www.pahome.ca/The%20Hist.%20of%20Carl.%20All%20on%20one%20WORD%20Doc..pdf

      “There are currently 3 Amish families establishing their roots
      in Carlingford. They have re-located from communities in Ontario.
      These 3 families include 29 children.
      The Amish have purchased land to farm and are currently building
      their homes and barns etc.”

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      Stephen Nissley
      Comment on 5 (Mid-Decade) Amish Population Facts That Might Surprise You (February 28th, 2017 at 10:10)

      There are a few families in the Woodstock area of New Brunswick.

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