12 responses to 5 Interesting Facts on Lancaster Amish Schools
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    Dan
    Comment on 5 Interesting Facts on Lancaster Amish Schools (May 23rd, 2017 at 10:50)

    “Lancaster Online is published” or rather “has published”?

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    Alice Mary
    Comment on 5 Interesting Facts on Lancaster Amish Schools (May 23rd, 2017 at 11:53)

    I’m always interested in posts dealing with schools & education in general, being the mother of a Fifth grade teacher (English).

    How much “technology” would be used in a Mennonite classroom, and how do Amish students/parents adjust/adapt to it? I’d be interested in Amish & Mennonite teachers discussing/comparing their differences & similarities. Are there a lot of conflicts? (Too much technology for some, not enough for others?)

    Interesting topic!

    Alice Mary

    • Alice Mary the example that comes to mind from a friend’s school was, I believe, flourescent lighting and a copy machine? So we’re not talking about interactive whiteboards and laptops here…I agree it would be interesting to hear from both Amish and Mennonite teachers in the area. And if any are reading this, drop me an email! 🙂

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    Oldkat
    Comment on Technology; the solution to every problem (wink, wink) (May 24th, 2017 at 11:51)

    Technology; the solution to every problem (wink, wink)

    1) I am really glad that this article was posted, as I was not aware that there even was a large Old Order Mennonite community in Lancaster County. I have had the opportunity to visit numerous Amish communities in multiple states over the years, but have never been in a an OOM community before. When we are Lancaster County for Horse Progress Days at the end of June I hope to correct that situation.

    BTW: Erik did you get my email about HPD?

    2) This is an interesting article to me because my wife taught various grade levels, including Special Ed classes, in the lower elementary grades for 36 years before retiring 4 years ago this month. I have come to the conclusion that public school education, on the whole, is in a world of hurt and suspect that an over reliance on technology is at least partially to blame. About 3 or 4 years before my wife retired, the district where she taught required all teachers to start using a “white board” system. I never saw the thing and really don’t know how it worked, but essentially it was an electronic version of the old erasable white board. It was also much more than that. It could import lesson plans, you could make ad hoc changes to it and those would be exported to update the lesson plan. The administration could monitor and evaluate lesson plans, classroom application of the system etc. What is not to like about these capabilities, right? Well, nothing really. All of it seemed to work as designed.

    Where the problem came in, is that there seemed to be a belief, especially noticeable among the younger teachers, that “teaching” consisted of exposing the students to whatever is displayed on the white board and no more. If the students grasp what they are shown on the board; fine. If not? Oh, well … too bad. There seemed to be little ability on their part to tailor activities to the student’s needs if they were not able to comprehend the material as presented via the system. Worse yet, one day there was an interruption in the internet (intranet?) service, and since the white board data base & logic resided on the server at the administration, guess what? Yep, the white board was down and pandemonium was the order of the day for any teacher that was under about 30 years old.

    My wife was dismayed; she said they were absolutely panic stricken. Without their electronic crutch they were mostly frozen in place. She said that they literally had no idea what to do about the situation. Finally, one of my wife’s coworkers told them; “Why don’t you just try TEACHING the lesson?” They had no clue what she meant by that. When my wife was telling me about this she thought that I would be surprised; I wasn’t. We see the same thing with in the industry that I am in. If the younger crowd gets a piece of bad data on some particular segment of our operational system they have no idea that the number is erroneous. Even if you point out that it is obviously in error, they have no idea where to go get the correct data. Our system is so redundant that there is ALMOST ALWAYS some way of figuring out what the real value should be, but they want to fall back on “Well, THAT’S what the computer said”. When I hear that I usually wink at one of my fellow old-salt coworkers and say to them what I told to my wife when their white board wouldn’t work at school … “The Amish NEVER seem to have this problem!”

    • Hi Oldkat, thanks for the post and just a quick response right now – I did get it – will get back to ya! Just had one of those weeks 🙂 The OOM community is generally in the Ephrata area and surrounding areas. Yes I recommend paying a visit, I think you’ll find those areas interesting. You’ll know you’re in the right area when you start seeing black buggies rather than the Lancaster Amish grey 🙂

      And I am on the same page on the electronic white board example you shared. I encountered it once in a classroom context and it just wasn’t my thing. I think time saving and work-enhancing technologies, apps, etc. can be good in theory but we also have to be careful not to let the tech get in the way of the main goal.

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        Oldkat
        Comment on Ephrata OOM community (May 26th, 2017 at 21:17)

        Ephrata OOM community

        Thanks for the tip on the OOM community near Ephrata. We will surely drive up that way. We are flying up on that Tuesday AM, so have the PM on Tuesday and all day Wednesday to explore.

        Going to do the Horse Progress Days bus tour, which in on Thursday, again this year. Horses, Amish, beautiful farm country and Old Order Mennonites nearby … as a bonus. Christmas is coming six months early for me this year!

        • Great to hear it, so Merry Christmas and enjoy the visit 🙂 So unless I’m drawing a blank I think you haven’t been in Lancaster before? Compared to the other communities you’ve visited you’ll probably noticed it is a lot more populated, though still quite rural in areas.

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    Al in Ky
    Comment on 5 Interesting Facts on Lancaster Amish Schools (May 24th, 2017 at 20:44)

    This was interesting, especially to learn that some schools have both Amish and Mennonite students. I was wondering if there are similar Amish/Mennonite schools in other settlements. It brought to mind the southwestern Elkhart County, Indiana, area. In that area there are several plain Mennonite groups, plain Brethren, German Baptist, and towards Nappanee, Old Order Amish. I couldn’t find any information in books I have about such schools in that area.

    But I did find something interesting in the book “An Amish Patchwork: Indiana’s Old Orders in the Modern World”. On page 150 it states, “In 1969 (the Old Order Mennonites) joined other conservative Mennonite and Brethren groups in starting a parochial school in the Yellow Creek area (which is southwest of Goshen). As enrollment increased and more children withdrew from the public schools, each of the cooperating churches opened its own school.”

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    jerry
    Comment on Old Order Mennonites in Lancaster county. (May 24th, 2017 at 22:11)

    Old Order Mennonites in Lancaster county.

    I do not explore any orders East of the river and I wonder if the Old Order Mennonites in Lancaster County have men with beards. I am familiar with OOM in Synder County. They “Synders” men do not sport beards and I was wondering if the Lancaster OOM have beards. Does anyone have knowledge of this?

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    Elizabeth
    Comment on Amish schools (June 8th, 2017 at 18:59)

    Amish schools

    If you ever get a chance to visit an Amish school, go! It’s fascinating to watch. Each grade is doing a different activity and there is a lot of action with students leaving and going back to their desks, but it’s all done in near silence and in perfect coordination and discipline. I have played “school” for hours with my Amish friends’ younger kids at home. For them, it’s like a dress rehearsal where they learn the ropes.

    You didn’t mention this in the article, but there is usually little to no homework assigned as well, at least in the OO Amish schools in Lancaster. It’s only given if a scholar is falling behind or needs extra drilling in a subject. The students also help clean up at the end of the school day – no janitorial staff needed. =) Every Amish kid I’ve met really loves school and thinks the world of their teachers.

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